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fermy
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fermy wrote:
Marco, Rob welcome to the club, it's a great pleasure to see you here.
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Oberkochen folks whisper that the lens didn't reach the production stage mostly due to it's bulk (more or less 1kg, I was told), unsuitable, uncording to the management, for fast reportage actions... Of course several Canon users take advantage of fast lenses of the same weight class (50/1,0 L, 85/1,2 L) without complaining too much about what, but this is it.
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That makes a lot of sense. 1kg sounds hugely impractical. For example, Canon FD 24/1.4 L is only 430gr, I'd think that IQ is decent too  Rob, is your lens ~ 1kg indeed?
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raspberryrob
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raspberryrob wrote:
Thanks for all the welcomes! And Marco, it's a pleasure to have you here!
So I didn't get my roll shot completely, but I found some previous shots I've taken with the 18 while I was traveling Europe this summer. I didn't take many, and I can't recall the aperture on the shots, but here.
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Tetrahedroid
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Tetrahedroid wrote:
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No, there's no logical reason in my mind to have a private sale preferred to a safe museum structure... |
agreed in theory
but then is there a Zeiss museum, and if there is one, how safe is it, who is the owner?
I still shudder when I think of Hoya closing down the big Pentax museum outside Tokyo in 2009. Where did all go?
So after all what matters most is a responsible person |
And that's why I'd rather keep the lens in this group of people who really are dedicated and deeply reverent
Better a known devil than an unknown god  |
Could you please just accept that you're never getting these lenses?
I think it's clear; museum or family. |
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raspberryrob
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raspberryrob wrote:
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That makes a lot of sense. 1kg sounds hugely impractical. For example, Canon FD 24/1.4 L is only 430gr, I'd think that IQ is decent too Rob, is your lens ~ 1kg indeed? |
Yes, the 25 is really heavy. When I was first given the lenses, and up until now, I rarely used the 25 because of how heavy and bulky it was. |
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raspberryrob
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raspberryrob wrote:
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| A question on the 25. There are 2 wide rubber rings on the body. Which one do you use for focussing? Does the otherone move as well? |
Both move together |
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trifox wrote:
Welcome Marco.
I'd say many people have learned through your website which is full of great analysis and interesting details
this is absolutely fascinating post.
I think this post should be archived as a post of all posts on this forum
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ZoneV wrote:
Thank you rob!
The cat image is very nice, whow!
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my_photography wrote:
Welcome Marco, you name has been mentioned more than a few times in the past.
Rob, if possible, give us some measurement of the lens - weight, length, filter size etc. when time permit. As you will probably be the only person that we know having this lens, any info you provide here will become a record or some kind. So pardon us if we at time might sound too anxious to find out more on these two lens.
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Marco cavina
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Marco cavina wrote:
Just to say that I updated the article about "cute Zeiss DFR and DDR lenses" linked to this thread, with some interesting upgrades (pictures and/or text and/or sketches) about:
Zeiss Krauss Anastigmat 110mm f/8 with Protar formula (1896)
Zeiss Apo-Tessar 30cm f/9 wartime (1943)
the optical section and data about the Oberkochen Blasennkammerobjektiv S-Distagon for CERN bubble-camber
the optical section of the microlithography S-Planar 25mm f/1,6 and 50mm f/1,6 + a batch of others.
Thank you.
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Many thanks Marco, I shall read it again, I enjoyed it so much the first time, so many lenses I would love to have but can only dream about.
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Some fascinating insights here! Huge thanks to the new guys for coming along and sharing your knowledge and experience
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raspberryrob
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raspberryrob wrote:
Hey everyone. Sorry for my absence from the post. It's been a busy week and I haven't had much time to sit still. I promise I'll get the pictures from the lenses uploaded soon as well. I want some nice shots to show off  |
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LFLee
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LFLee wrote:
It's fortunate that you also likes to take photos. Use it, and if you need the money, you could sell them. Let beat those Leica camera price. 
Interesting story!
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SonicScot
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| Hey everyone. Sorry for my absence from the post. It's been a busy week and I haven't had much time to sit still. I promise I'll get the pictures from the lenses uploaded soon as well. I want some nice shots to show off |
Take your time, we're not going anywhere
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jnarciso wrote:
Welcome Rob to the forum and thanks for posting these rare images.
I am amazed by these two precious pieces of photographic engineering.
I will be a keen follower of this terrific post
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Marco cavina
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Marco cavina wrote:
Here is my interpretation of this topic (thanks to Rob who granted the use of his pictures), published some minutes ago:
http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/Zeiss_Distagon_1,4-25_2,8_18/00_pag.htm
unfortunately this is the Italian language version (the English is coming asap) but the illustrations speak by themselves.
Best regards,
Marco
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my_photography wrote:
I don't read Italian, but whatever you have there in the link is sure great. You have extra photos of the lens too. You are fast.
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LucisPictor wrote:
Welcome! It's great to have you here, both of you!
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poilu wrote:
Google translated the article flawless, extraordinary piece of history !
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ylyad wrote:
This thread becomes famous: http://www.petapixel.com/2013/01/25/grandson-of-zeiss-lens-designer-was-left-a-holy-grail-of-zeiss-lenses/
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kds315* wrote:
Well, just through the door back from the US visiting family, I'd like to also welcome Rob and my friend Marco!
Amy amazing piece of optical history and for me, a Zeiss fan since long and member of the Zeiss Historical Society a feast to say the least!
I full agree with Orio, these wonderful lenses should be preserved and ideally should not disappear in some collectors vault.
Great that you have no plans on selling them Rob!
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hoanpham wrote:
I am really enjoy the figures of these two lenses, and waiting for the English version... Awesome. Thank you. |
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I've been a member here for a while, but only became aware of this thread from the PetaPixel post. Just wanted to add my welcome to both Rob and Marco. Thanks for sharing!
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Orio wrote:
This thread has been quoted by the official Carl Zeiss page on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/carlzeisslenses?ref=stream
EDIT: on Twitter, too:
https://twitter.com/CarlZeissLenses
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cyrano wrote:
Bumping this great thread for anyone who missed it first time out.
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