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Cyclop - The One-Eyed Monster
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
So, can somebody explain, how to focus to infinity? Smile


PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Which version do you have? Helios 40 copy or non-Helios copy?

Also it depend of your camera


PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
BurstMox wrote:
Which version do you have? Helios 40 copy or non-Helios copy?

Also it depend of your camera


I have Cyclop 85mm 1.5 and my camera is Nikon D3100. Smile


PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anti88 wrote:
So, can somebody explain, how to focus to infinity? Smile

Unscrew the front part of the lens.


PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Olivier wrote:
Anti88 wrote:
So, can somebody explain, how to focus to infinity? Smile

Unscrew the front part of the lens.


Looks like it doesn't help, do I need to remove front element of the lens? :O


PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anti88 wrote:
Olivier wrote:
Anti88 wrote:
So, can somebody explain, how to focus to infinity? Smile

Unscrew the front part of the lens.


Looks like it doesn't help, do I need to remove front element of the lens? :O

Oops, sorry, I meant screw front part of the lens completely, not unscrew.

Can you post a picture of your Cyclop ?
It would help a lot.


PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I have Cyclop 85mm 1.5 and my camera is Nikon D3100.


There is (at least) 2 type of cyclop 85mm/1.5. The Helios copy (with brown coating), and the non-helios (with bright blue coating). With the last one, you need to unscrew the rear part. Also, if you're using it on Nikon, I think you are using a M42 adapter with glass to reach infinity. In this case, you'll need to trim the rear part. About the other type of cyclop, I don't know, I never had it.

Non Helios cyclop :


Helios copy :



PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Olivier wrote:
Anti88 wrote:
Olivier wrote:
Anti88 wrote:
So, can somebody explain, how to focus to infinity? Smile

Unscrew the front part of the lens.


Looks like it doesn't help, do I need to remove front element of the lens? :O

Oops, sorry, I meant screw front part of the lens completely, not unscrew.

Can you post a picture of your Cyclop ?
It would help a lot.





Maybe you can too post photos, on how should I do that? Many thanks!


PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
BurstMox wrote:
Quote:
I have Cyclop 85mm 1.5 and my camera is Nikon D3100.


There is (at least) 2 type of cyclop 85mm/1.5. The Helios copy (with brown coating), and the non-helios (with bright blue coating). With the last one, you need to unscrew the rear part. Also, if you're using it on Nikon, I think you are using a M42 adapter with glass to reach infinity. In this case, you'll need to trim the rear part. About the other type of cyclop, I don't know, I never had it.

Non Helios cyclop :


Helios copy :



And I wanted to say, that I'm using M42 adapter with no glass.


PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anti88 wrote:
And I wanted to say, that I'm using M42 adapter with no glass.


I'm not specialist at all of Nikon, but I thought if you're using Nikon, you can't reach infinity without adapter with glass (for all M42 lenses, not only Cyclop).


PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
BurstMox wrote:
Anti88 wrote:
And I wanted to say, that I'm using M42 adapter with no glass.


I'm not specialist at all of Nikon, but I thought if you're using Nikon, you can't reach infinity without adapter with glass (for all M42 lenses, not only Cyclop).


Oh, I thought that I can reach infinity with some changes to the lens.. :/


PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Let's wait what other will say. Again, I'm not Nikon specialist, I just know that Nikon mount is problematic with M42 (and not only) to reach infinity. But maybe exist a hint with Cyclop. It's not the version I have, so I can't really help.


PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
BurstMox wrote:
Let's wait what other will say. Again, I'm not Nikon specialist, I just know that Nikon mount is problematic with M42 (and not only) to reach infinity. But maybe exist a hint with Cyclop. It's not the version I have, so I can't really help.


Well, many thanks for information!


PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you.
It's a Helios copy, so, on Canon, as it is shown on your photo it should reach infinity.
I don't have a Nikon, so I don't know for your Nikon.
Maybe Burstmox is right.


PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
hi folks

i found this one

NZT 1M2 , 1,5/85

this is the wrong one? with that attached element and it is not possibleto mount it on camera? or it is ok one?



PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Olivier wrote:
Thank you.
It's a Helios copy, so, on Canon, as it is shown on your photo it should reach infinity.
I don't have a Nikon, so I don't know for your Nikon.
Maybe Burstmox is right.


Register distance on Nikon is longer than m42, so yes, this is the reason why you can't reach infinity Wink


PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
romans001 wrote:
hi folks

i found this one

NZT 1M2 , 1,5/85

this is the wrong one? with that attached element and it is not possibleto mount it on camera? or it is ok one?


I really don't know Roman.
Maybe somebody could answer ?


PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Olivier wrote:
romans001 wrote:
hi folks

i found this one

NZT 1M2 , 1,5/85

this is the wrong one? with that attached element and it is not possibleto mount it on camera? or it is ok one?


I really don't know Roman.
Maybe somebody could answer ?


Not OK. Not a Helios-40-2 clone.


PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you Jure.

Roman, you have your answer. Smile


PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Idea How about this one-eyed monster I just constructed this morning:


Cyclop + Step-down ring to 180 degree fish-eye adapter.

Yes, I know, it certainly does look ridiculous Laughing

I now have an ultra wide angle Cyclop with a very deep depth of field. This may seem contrary to the ideal purposes of this lens...

But...when using for super close focus, Shocked depth of field can be very shallow. This was the main purpose of my experiment, to see if the character of this lens can be taken to the macro level and if the distorting nature of the fish-eye would accentuate the swirling effect.

This particular setup won't have any of that swirl because the area of glass used by this adapter is so small. But I am still wondering what kind of results would come from a larger diameter wide angle adapter with a native filter thread of 67mm or larger...?

Last edited by significantimagery on Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:12 pm; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I realize this should be posted in the adapters forum, but I find it of particular interest for the Cyclop. This is an adapter to NEX that has a built in adjustable diaphragm for aperture setting. However, I have not found on for M42 to NEX. I suppose one could first use an M42 to EOS, then this adapter?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adjustable-aperture-Canon-EOS-EF-Lens-to-Sony-NEX-E-Mount-Adapter-For-NEX-5-NEX3-/160867634808?pt=US_Filter_Rings_Holders&hash=item2574754e78


PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have thought about this one before (M42 to M42):
Click here to see on Ebay

(edited to use "ebay" tags in message pane)
Farside.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Doesn't that one extend the registration?


PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah, it would become a close-focus only lens with that in between.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It is probably better to by a Helios 40-2 Very Happy
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