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Ghost2501
Joined: 26 Apr 2012 Posts: 102 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Ghost2501 wrote:
Seller doesn't know.
But according to the guy from pentaxslr, it's normally a 100mm f2.
Will see. |
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feby.ka
Joined: 28 May 2012 Posts: 3 Location: Aachen
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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feby.ka wrote:
Hallo all,
i am very new in mflens and also in manual lenses world. i have actually a question about this lens.
I see from some picts in google there are cyclop with nothing on their body and also with FL num and cyclop name in russian (i think). are they actually the same one???
thanks [/img] |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
feby: There are a few different versions and some do notadapt well, so best to produce a photo in order for us to help. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
I agree with woodrim.
Mine has no inscription at all and has the same design as those shown here with cyclop inscription. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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feby.ka
Joined: 28 May 2012 Posts: 3 Location: Aachen
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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feby.ka wrote:
oliver and woodrim : ok, i'll post it in view days, cause i am still waiting the other one from the seller. btw, i got these lenses just for 77,77 and just for 127 euro from ebay |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
feby.ka wrote: |
oliver and woodrim : ok, i'll post it in view days, cause i am still waiting the other one from the seller. btw, i got these lenses just for 77,77 and just for 127 euro from ebay |
Which ones did you get ? _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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feby.ka
Joined: 28 May 2012 Posts: 3 Location: Aachen
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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feby.ka wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
feby.ka wrote: |
oliver and woodrim : ok, i'll post it in view days, cause i am still waiting the other one from the seller. btw, i got these lenses just for 77,77 and just for 127 euro from ebay |
Which ones did you get ? |
i got both of them. the 77,77 cyclop that was so lucky because the seller wrote Zyklop as a tittle , so there was not so much bidder for this lens _________________ Be Cool, Be Jadul |
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Kram
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1344 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:36 am Post subject: |
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Kram wrote:
I'm selling my Cyclop on ebay to fund more lens lust. Posted in "Lens Sales". |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Nice lens kram, but strange bidding
3 bids from the same guy, I don't get it _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
Nice lens kram, but strange bidding
3 bids from the same guy, I don't get it |
Seems like a true passion . _________________ ---------------------------------
The Peculiar Apparatus Of Victorian Steampunk Photography: 100+ Genuine Steampunk Camera Designs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B92829NS |
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littleearth
Joined: 21 Dec 2011 Posts: 77 Location: PT
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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littleearth wrote:
Hello everyone !
Been reading this forum for a while now, got really addicted to m42 glass, but it's actually the first time I post something !
I bought a Cyclop, but there seems to be something wrong with my copy, it looks really soft and with some nasty glow ! I've already tried to disassamble and look for reversed or loose elements but it looks ok ! Can't seem to find anything suspicious !
Has anyone else had this problem ? I appreciate any help ! |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
littleearth wrote: |
Hello everyone !
Been reading this forum for a while now, got really addicted to m42 glass, but it's actually the first time I post something !
I bought a Cyclop, but there seems to be something wrong with my copy, it looks really soft and with some nasty glow ! I've already tried to disassamble and look for reversed or loose elements but it looks ok ! Can't seem to find anything suspicious !
Has anyone else had this problem ? I appreciate any help ! |
Did you compared your elements position and number with Cyclop / Helios design scheme? There might be element missing. Can you post your best photo made with it? _________________ ---------------------------------
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Kram
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1344 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Kram wrote:
Pancolart wrote: |
Nordentro wrote: |
Nice lens kram, but strange bidding
3 bids from the same guy, I don't get it |
Seems like a true passion . |
I think he was trying to see what my reserve was. He did! |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
littleearth wrote: |
Hello everyone !
Been reading this forum for a while now, got really addicted to m42 glass, but it's actually the first time I post something !
I bought a Cyclop, but there seems to be something wrong with my copy, it looks really soft and with some nasty glow ! I've already tried to disassamble and look for reversed or loose elements but it looks ok ! Can't seem to find anything suspicious !
Has anyone else had this problem ? I appreciate any help ! |
There could be something wrong, but maybe not. If you are using it in bright light it can get a bad glow with whites blown out. It is very difficult to focus correctly and takes practice, so that could be the soft problem. However, if something is wrong, could also be haze or fungus. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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littleearth
Joined: 21 Dec 2011 Posts: 77 Location: PT
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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littleearth wrote:
No it's not flare, it just doesn't focus, and the Cyclop looks brand new, I don't think it was ever used ! I'm pretty used to the narrow DOF, because I own an Helios 40. I will probably sell it, maybe someone can figure it out !
woodrim wrote: |
littleearth wrote: |
Hello everyone !
Been reading this forum for a while now, got really addicted to m42 glass, but it's actually the first time I post something !
I bought a Cyclop, but there seems to be something wrong with my copy, it looks really soft and with some nasty glow ! I've already tried to disassamble and look for reversed or loose elements but it looks ok ! Can't seem to find anything suspicious !
Has anyone else had this problem ? I appreciate any help ! |
There could be something wrong, but maybe not. If you are using it in bright light it can get a bad glow with whites blown out. It is very difficult to focus correctly and takes practice, so that could be the soft problem. However, if something is wrong, could also be haze or fungus. |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
littleearth wrote: |
Hello everyone !
Been reading this forum for a while now, got really addicted to m42 glass, but it's actually the first time I post something !
I bought a Cyclop, but there seems to be something wrong with my copy, it looks really soft and with some nasty glow ! I've already tried to disassamble and look for reversed or loose elements but it looks ok ! Can't seem to find anything suspicious !
Has anyone else had this problem ? I appreciate any help ! |
Mine was soft and very prone to flare.
http://forum.mflenses.com/cyclop-h3-t1-1-5-85mm-no-coating-t47883,highlight,%2Bcyclop.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/cyclop-85mm-1-5-t47953,highlight,%2Bcyclop.html
A back glass was a little loose, not very plane. After repositioning and screwing it tight, results were better.
Then I compared results with Helios-40 and other fast lenses :
http://forum.mflenses.com/helios-40-and-cyclop-85mm-1-5-nikkor-s-c-50mm-1-4-and-1-2-t49149,highlight,%2Bcyclop.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1237498.html#1237498
How are your results compared to these ?
Softer than my first samples ?
If you shoot a sheet full of text, strictly parallell to it, is the focus plane equal on the whole sheet ?
What is your camera ?
Could you post some of your pictures ? _________________ Olivier - Moderator
Dslr : Olympus Pen E-P2 - Fujifilm X-Pro2 - Canon 5D MkII.
SLr and MF lenses : for feedback and helping people, cameras and lenses I own : full list here http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1442740.html#1442740 |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Kram wrote: |
Pancolart wrote: |
Nordentro wrote: |
Nice lens kram, but strange bidding
3 bids from the same guy, I don't get it |
Seems like a true passion . |
I think he was trying to see what my reserve was. He did! |
Ah, I always wondered how this was possible _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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lightofeyes
Joined: 01 Sep 2011 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:26 am Post subject: How to clean the front element of Cyclop 85mm 1.5 |
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lightofeyes wrote:
Hello everybody....
I just got my cyclop 85mm 1.5
Because the rear element was loose somehow, it gives a clicking sound (when I press it gently) and I am sure that the rear element was not sitting properly.
I open the rear part and seems the rear element ring needs to be tighten, because it's already open I decided to clean it too.
Now the lens is clean but only the rear part.
I wonder how to clean the front element ?
Do I have to open the ring in front which has the CYCLOP and the 85/1.5 written on it ?
I would appreciate if someone could help and share about this.
Meanwhile here are samples taken after the lens has been cleaned.
Before cleaning.
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Camera : Canon 550D, NEX-3
Lenses :
Canon : FD 2.8/20 2.8/28 2.0/35 2.8/35 1.4/50 1.8/50 1.2/55 1.8/85 2.8/100 2.8/135 2.8/200
Carl Ziess : Flek 2.4/35 2.8/35 4/20 4/50 Pancolar 1.8/50 Biometar 2.8/80 Tessar 2.8/80 Sonnar 2.8/180 2.8/200
Others : Helios 44M 2/58 Bell & Howell 1.9/25 Pentacon 2.8/135
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:06 am Post subject: Re: How to clean the front element of Cyclop 85mm 1.5 |
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Olivier wrote:
lightofeyes wrote: |
Hello everybody....
I wonder how to clean the front element ?
Do I have to open the ring in front which has the CYCLOP and the 85/1.5 written on it ?
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Yes, you have to unscrew the front ring.
Promising pictures but look quite blue. Did you shoot them with the 550D or the Nex ? _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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lightofeyes
Joined: 01 Sep 2011 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:18 am Post subject: Re: How to clean the front element of Cyclop 85mm 1.5 |
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lightofeyes wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
lightofeyes wrote: |
Hello everybody....
I wonder how to clean the front element ?
Do I have to open the ring in front which has the CYCLOP and the 85/1.5 written on it ?
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Yes, you have to unscrew the front ring.
Promising pictures but look quite blue. Did you shoot them with the 550D or the Nex ? |
Thank you for the information.
I use my NEX...
I agree it looks blue.... all surrounding are green
All pictures are directly upload no editing...
Maybe tomorrow I will try to shoot with my EOS
Thanks again _________________
Camera : Canon 550D, NEX-3
Lenses :
Canon : FD 2.8/20 2.8/28 2.0/35 2.8/35 1.4/50 1.8/50 1.2/55 1.8/85 2.8/100 2.8/135 2.8/200
Carl Ziess : Flek 2.4/35 2.8/35 4/20 4/50 Pancolar 1.8/50 Biometar 2.8/80 Tessar 2.8/80 Sonnar 2.8/180 2.8/200
Others : Helios 44M 2/58 Bell & Howell 1.9/25 Pentacon 2.8/135
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lightofeyes
Joined: 01 Sep 2011 Posts: 12
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:13 am Post subject: Re: How to clean the front element of Cyclop 85mm 1.5 |
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lightofeyes wrote:
lightofeyes wrote: |
Olivier wrote: |
lightofeyes wrote: |
Hello everybody....
I wonder how to clean the front element ?
Do I have to open the ring in front which has the CYCLOP and the 85/1.5 written on it ?
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Yes, you have to unscrew the front ring.
Promising pictures but look quite blue. Did you shoot them with the 550D or the Nex ? |
Thank you for the information.
I use my NEX...
I agree it looks blue.... all surrounding are green
All pictures are directly upload no editing...
Maybe tomorrow I will try to shoot with my EOS
Thanks again |
Here are pictures using Canon :
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Camera : Canon 550D, NEX-3
Lenses :
Canon : FD 2.8/20 2.8/28 2.0/35 2.8/35 1.4/50 1.8/50 1.2/55 1.8/85 2.8/100 2.8/135 2.8/200
Carl Ziess : Flek 2.4/35 2.8/35 4/20 4/50 Pancolar 1.8/50 Biometar 2.8/80 Tessar 2.8/80 Sonnar 2.8/180 2.8/200
Others : Helios 44M 2/58 Bell & Howell 1.9/25 Pentacon 2.8/135
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ajax156
Joined: 28 Jun 2012 Posts: 2 Location: AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:02 am Post subject: Why buy a cyclop 85mm anyway? |
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ajax156 wrote:
Hi everyone, it's my first post so please be gentle...
Can anyone give a good reason why you would choose the cyclop 85mm lens instead of getting the Samyang 85mm f/1.4 which is would give arguably better results anyway (and it has a diaphragm too). I've been watching the prices of these lenses on the 'bay for quite some time and for what they seem to go for, I would much rather (and actually did) get the Samyang for just a little more. Is there any other advantage of the Cyclop over the Samyang which I am missing? |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:47 am Post subject: Re: Why buy a cyclop 85mm anyway? |
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Pancolart wrote:
ajax156 wrote: |
Hi everyone, it's my first post so please be gentle...
Can anyone give a good reason why you would choose the cyclop 85mm lens instead of getting the Samyang 85mm f/1.4 which is would give arguably better results anyway (and it has a diaphragm too). I've been watching the prices of these lenses on the 'bay for quite some time and for what they seem to go for, I would much rather (and actually did) get the Samyang for just a little more. Is there any other advantage of the Cyclop over the Samyang which I am missing? |
A valid question. I'll give you few reasons though decision isn't easy and is very subjective:
1. Samyang is still 2-3 times more expensive though dirt cheap compared to Leica or Zeiss.
2. Samyang prices will go down, Cyclop's will rise (limited edition, no more being produced). Moderately.
3. Swirly bokeh. Seen in it's best using full frame camera or SHIFT adapter for smaller sensor cameras. Not all photographers understand the rules of making one (swirly bokeh) to be honest.
4. It can be disassembled and modified easily. Custom aperture for instance.
5. I assume most Samyangs will work after 10 years. But after 20? Well, there is no reason Cyclops wouldn't be working after 200 years . _________________ ---------------------------------
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Hello Ajax and welcome !
I have both lenses, on Canon.
I would say that these 2 lenses have different "spirit".
Samyang 1.4/85mm is a modern manual focusing lens and benefits of modern lenses treatment.
It lacks of electronic contacts, but I glued an AF confirm chip without any problem.
Its image quality is very good, even wide open and it is a very good portrait lens.
http://forum.mflenses.com/samyang-85-1-4-t22739,highlight,%2Bsamyang+%2B1+%2B4+%2B85.html
Cyclop 1.5/85mm has no diaph as you mentioned.
It is for more "artist" photographies with special bokeh and a kind of aura around subjects.
It's not an easy lens as you have to deal with overexposure a lot.
If you want a Cyclop like very good portrait old lens with diaphragm, have a look at the Helios-40 1.5/85mm, or the Jupiter 2/85mm.
If I were you, I would negin by buying the Samyang. Else you should be disappointed if you don't have MF lenses' experience.
Cheers _________________ Olivier - Moderator
Dslr : Olympus Pen E-P2 - Fujifilm X-Pro2 - Canon 5D MkII.
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ajax156
Joined: 28 Jun 2012 Posts: 2 Location: AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:47 pm Post subject: Fair Enough |
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ajax156 wrote:
[quote="Olivier"]
Samyang 1.4/85mm is a modern manual focusing lens and benefits of modern lenses treatment.
It lacks of electronic contacts, but I glued an AF confirm chip without any problem.
Its image quality is very good, even wide open and it is a very good portrait lens.
http://forum.mflenses.com/samyang-85-1-4-t22739,highlight,%2Bsamyang+%2B1+%2B4+%2B85.html
Cyclop 1.5/85mm has no diaph as you mentioned.
It is for more "artist" photographies with special bokeh and a kind of aura around subjects.
It's not an easy lens as you have to deal with overexposure a lot.
If you want a Cyclop like very good portrait old lens with diaphragm, have a look at the Helios-40 1.5/85mm, or the Jupiter 2/85mm.
If I were you, I would negin by buying the Samyang. Else you should be disappointed if you don't have MF lenses' experience.
Cheers [/quote]
Fair enough and thankyou for the responses. I did actually buy a Rokinon (same as the Samyang) and put a Canon AF chip on it. I works very well and for the shallow depth of field/low light abilities I love it. |
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