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Nikos
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 Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:52 pm Post subject: Contax G Vario-Sonnar 35-70. Any experience? |
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Nikos wrote:
I love the Contax/Yashica version of this lens.
I would say it is my favourite Zeiss out of MANY ones.
It is the lens that has given me most of my superb 3D images.
However, it appears a bit bulky on a Sony a7 (the adapter adds quite a bit to it).
Has anyone used the Contax G version of the lens?
I found nothing about it in the forum.
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Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
MF lenses:
SLR:
Canon TS-E 17mm f/4, Zeiss 2.8/21 ZE, Zeiss 2/28 Contax, Zeiss 2/35 ZE, Zeiss 1.4/50 Contax, Zeiss 1.4/85 Contax, Zeiss Makro 2/100 ZE,
Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
Rangefinder:
Zeiss 4.5/21 C Biogon ZM, Zeiss 2/35 Biogon ZM, Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Heliar L39, Leica Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm, Zeiss 2/45 Contax G, Zeiss 2.8/90 Contax G, Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM
AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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Orio
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| Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
The G lens has a completely different optical scheme than the Contax lens.
They are two completely different lenses and the difference in speed (f/3.5-5.6 versus a fixed f/3.4) should tell it all.
I never bought the 35-70 G because it is expensive and it does not have a good reputation for image quality.
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nainsurvolte
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| Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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nainsurvolte wrote:
No experience either but it seem to gather mixed comments and appreciation on the net, and I guess that is the reason you are aking here.
Ken Rockwell
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They were never popular because they don't focus close enough and have a very slow f/stop. Slow lenses are fine for digital, but for a film camera, an f/5.6 lens is silly.
Ergonimics are poor: it's difficult to feel which ring is the aperture and which ring is the zoom while shooting. |
This one seems to like it
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3125427
Same here
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1082473
Overall seem great but stop down and not too much wide open. I guess it would depend on the usage you are looking for the lens? |
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Nikos
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| Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
I need a lightweight walk around lens.
My emphasis is on the wide side.
Else, the 50mm Planar C/Y and the 90mm Contax G are good enough and light.
I find the 35-70 G lens it quite expensive, too.
And I don't like the 5.6 aperture compared to a constant 3.4-aperture lens with good macro capabilities.
However, its MTF does not look that bad compared to the C/Y lens.
I mostly shoot landscapes.
Probably the best would be the new Zeiss 24-70 f4 OSS Sony will release soon (450 gr).
But I hate to buy yet another expensive lens.
Especially if Sony won't publish the MTF (AFAIK).
I will probably stick with the good old C/Y VarioSonnar 
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Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
MF lenses:
SLR:
Canon TS-E 17mm f/4, Zeiss 2.8/21 ZE, Zeiss 2/28 Contax, Zeiss 2/35 ZE, Zeiss 1.4/50 Contax, Zeiss 1.4/85 Contax, Zeiss Makro 2/100 ZE,
Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
Rangefinder:
Zeiss 4.5/21 C Biogon ZM, Zeiss 2/35 Biogon ZM, Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Heliar L39, Leica Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm, Zeiss 2/45 Contax G, Zeiss 2.8/90 Contax G, Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM
AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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nainsurvolte
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| Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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nainsurvolte wrote:
| Nikos wrote: |
| I will probably stick with the good old C/Y VarioSonnar |
Just got it myself as I wanted a good quality zoom to replace my Tamron 28-75. I decided to use the 5D for composure and my 40D for sports. Hence, I don`t need AF for composure and for indoor with not a lot of light I have the Summicron 50 f2.
As for the weight, everything is a question of perspective. The combo a7-C/Y Vario Sonnar may look heavy, but consider it against 5D with a 24-70 f2.8 II and suddenly, it looks like a light weight combo.
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Nikos
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| Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
| nainsurvolte wrote: |
| Nikos wrote: |
| I will probably stick with the good old C/Y VarioSonnar |
As for the weight, everything is a question of perspective. The combo a7-C/Y Vario Sonnar may look heavy, but consider it against 5D with a 24-70 f2.8 II and suddenly, it looks like a light weight combo.
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Well, the VarioSonnar has replaced my Canon 24-70 since 2011.
The problem is, with 5D2 I also carry along the 21mm Distagon ZE.
This is an overkill for the cute little a7r.
And the gap from 21mm to 35mm is huge.
If hope my C Biogon 21mm will work fine in the next version of the camera.
I will keep this lens. No matter what.
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Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
MF lenses:
SLR:
Canon TS-E 17mm f/4, Zeiss 2.8/21 ZE, Zeiss 2/28 Contax, Zeiss 2/35 ZE, Zeiss 1.4/50 Contax, Zeiss 1.4/85 Contax, Zeiss Makro 2/100 ZE,
Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
Rangefinder:
Zeiss 4.5/21 C Biogon ZM, Zeiss 2/35 Biogon ZM, Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Heliar L39, Leica Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm, Zeiss 2/45 Contax G, Zeiss 2.8/90 Contax G, Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM
AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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Tedat
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| Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Contax G Vario-Sonnar 35-70. Any experience? |
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Tedat wrote:
| Nikos wrote: |
| However, it appears a bit bulky on a Sony a7 (the adapter adds quite a bit to it). |
you just have to get used to this... I use the A7 with LAE-A4 and SAL-1635Z.. now that's bulky! 
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Contax T*: Distagon 4/18, Distagon 2/28, Distagon 1.4/35, PC-Distagon 2.8/35, Planar 1.4/50, Planar 1.4/85, Planar 2/100, Planar 2/135, S-Planar 2.8/60, Tessar 2.8/45, Mirotar 8/500, Vario Sonnar 3.4/35-70, Vario Sonnar 4.5-5.6/100-300
Carl Zeiss for Rollei QBM: F-Distagon 2.8/16 HFT, Distagon 2.8/25, Planar 1.4/50 HFT, Sonnar 2.8/85
Konica Hexanon AR: 2.8/21, 1.2/57
Other: Minolta F2.8 [T4.5] 135mm STF, Meopta Meostigmat 1.4/70, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90.. and lots of early M42 Yashinon, Rikenon and Mamiya lenses |
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