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Prometheus
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 Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:08 pm Post subject: Chinon Bellflower vs Takumar Bellflower :) |
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Prometheus wrote:
Hard subjects to get exactly the same photo off.... moving in the wind on the side of the road.
Chinon
Bellflower - Chinon 55mm/1.7 by Mattias Wirf, on Flickr
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Bellflower - S-M-C Takumar 55mm/1.8 by Mattias Wirf, on Flickr
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eddieitman
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
In my eyes the chinon is just a tiny bit ahead, not much in it.
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SonicScot
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
I can't see a difference worth mentioning really. 
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Prometheus
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Prometheus wrote:
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| I can't see a difference worth mentioning really. |
Agreed, and a what difference there is could be down to handheld focusing and exposure 
But a fun experiment, I did some more comparison between these two. The most important thing for me is really not the lens in itself, but which I can use the best to make pictures... The feeling there was that the Takumar was easier to handle.
Heres two more
Chinon
Bellflower 2 - Chinon 55mm/1.7 by Mattias Wirf, on Flickr
Takumar
Bellflower 2 - S-M-C Takumar 55mm/1.8 by Mattias Wirf, on Flickr
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ChromaticAberration
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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ChromaticAberration wrote:
Takumar is clearly smoother bokeh-wise but other than that It would be hard to tell the difference.
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SonicScot
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
Ah well, if the Tak handles better in your hands it wins!
I think comfortable handling is very important, more so with mf lenses than af ones. If I could afford it most of my lenses would be Taks, I love how they feel in my hands. 
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eddieitman
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
Well the Chinon i think renders lovely when used in certain ways.
If you dont mind i will post a sample of what i refer to.
This was taken this afternoon wide open at F1.7 and at 0.5m
i love the oil like rendering the chinon does and its very sharp wide open.
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SonicScot
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SonicScot wrote:
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Well the Chinon i think renders lovely when used in certain ways.
If you dont mind i will post a sample of what i refer to.
This was taken this afternoon wide open at F1.7 and at 0.5m
i love the oil like rendering the chinon does and its very sharp wide open.
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I agree with the 'oil like rendering' but I'm struggling to find a part of that image that is sharp.  (sorry)
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Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
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