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Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 35mm f/1.4 (C/Y) Lens Review
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:36 pm    Post subject: Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 35mm f/1.4 (C/Y) Lens Review Reply with quote
http://slrlensreview.com/web/carl-zeiss-slr-lenses-51/wide-angle-slr-lenses-93/428-carl-zeiss-distagon-t-35mm-f14-cy-lens-review.html

What do feel about this review ?


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Boring...


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
They have placed the Distagon 2.8/35 higher than the 1.4/35 !!! Rolling Eyes
They rely to much on MTF's...

Last edited by Keysersoze27 on Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:10 pm; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
Boring...


Very Happy one of my friend wants to know, why he doesn't rate the lense as high as our forum members !


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
dakoo wrote:
Attila wrote:
Boring...


Very Happy one of my friend wants to know, why he doesn't rate the lense as high as our forum members !


I think he is child of modern era MTF above everything , tell to your friend to not reading bullshits see with his own eyes what Orio, Trifox, Poilu etc made with this lenses. They are exceptional pictures I used only one times when Orio kindly lend me his copy. Amazing lens!


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Judging a lens can be based on many different aspects, as we all know.
Some focus on (pun intended!) MTF charts and scientific lab results, others concentrate on how they personally like a lens in those situations they mostly shoot in.
We must never forget that each lens evaluation done by a person who uses a lens to take photos (and not by a person who measures MTF performances in a lab) is totally subjective and biased - but perhaps more informative for guys like us. Wink
Plus we can always (or mostly) test only one copy of a lens. Wink


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think these test are good when you search a lens with specific performance, e.g. wide angle lens with sharp borders and low CA. Or when you want to buy a lens, but you don't know any person, who can provide some sample photos to help with your decision.

But in many situations the result can be really misleading. I think many great lenses would fail in these tests. Auto Takumar 35/2.3, Meyer Primoplan 58/1.9, Trioplan 100/2.8 etc...


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK, this guy says
Quote:
"As can be seen from the shots above, Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 35mm f/1.4 fell prone to some flare in certain, rather extreme. situations."


Here's a picture I have taken - a real picture, not a test shot. Unprotected (no hood):



I have many other pictures like this one if somebody wants to see further proof. I can flood this thread. Laughing

So, I wonder what that guy tested Laughing but it looks to me like his mind was somewhere else while testing perhaps...? Laughing


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Other (real, unprotected) pictures from this "prone to flare" lens Laughing :









PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some more flare !! Laughing











I will really have to sell this lens, all these foggy images are unuseable! Laughing


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
Some more flare !! Laughing
I will really have to sell this lens, all these foggy images are unuseable! Laughing


Exactly my words, I ask him to gift me one Very Happy

BTW he has just bought one, awaiting it in post.
Must had some jitters Very Happy after seeing this review.

I thought this was the best way to satisfy his queries, some results from our members. Wink


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Of course this lens is prone to flare ...
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.... if you remove the coating with a screwdriver. Laughing


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Amazing photo Orio, at what aperture are these shot at? F4?


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
come on orio... why are you sharing all these well made shots under the brand of a 1.4/35 distagon? be honest! it was a dimoplan.


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
aleksanderpolo wrote:
Amazing photo Orio, at what aperture are these shot at? F4?


Well, it depends... most of the times I use it between f/2.8 and f/5.6
I think however that the very first one was taken at or near wide open.


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
supahmario wrote:
come on orio... why are you sharing all these well made shots under the brand of a 1.4/35 distagon? be honest! it was a dimoplan.


Oh no... I only use autofocus lenses! Laughing


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thats the performance of my Distagon 1.4/35 HFT @f1.4
http://www.flickr.com/photos/urmelchen/4335530176/sizes/o/

Very Happy


PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
urmelchen wrote:
Thats the performance of my Distagon 1.4/35 HFT @f1.4
http://www.flickr.com/photos/urmelchen/4335530176/sizes/o/
Very Happy

that's some incredible performance on a 5DII Shocked
I have to find a chart and try mine


PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I finally got a copy of this lens (Matsuiyastore <---perfect dealer) and felt compelled to chime in.

In the end, no lens is a perfect lens, there are always trade-offs, but when considering the quality of a lens, it is best as an artist to understand what the advantages of each lens are. Use it to the best of those advantages and if this brings you joy, do the trade-offs even matter? Only each individual can answer for himself, but I can answer that this Distagon will become a mainstay for me.

I've only had mine a couple of days now, but I've been putting it through its paces. My first impression is of noteable sharpness from wide open and a transition from its in-focus plane to bokeh that really pops the subject. I can't really explain how it's different, except to say that it is different from other lenses. Also, it helps that many (including myself) find the bokeh pleasing.

Using mine with the Leitax M42 conversion kit and a James Lao M42-A adapter on my Sony A900, infinity hits perfectly at the end of the throw and this is another wow for me - detail is amazing. I would not hestitate to use this lens for critical landscapes and especially low light shooting requiring larger apertures - even at 1.4, the center mass of the image is still at a very high level.

End result, if a shallow depth of field combined with detailed resolution is something important to you, I can't see this wide angle proving a disappointment. Great tool to work with, I look forward to posting something from it soon.

To the OP, what does your friend think of the lens now?

Kelly.


PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
pirate wrote:
In the end, no lens is a perfect lens, there are always trade-offs

I read your post and cannot find the tradeoffs ?


PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
poilu wrote:
pirate wrote:
In the end, no lens is a perfect lens, there are always trade-offs

I read your post and cannot find the tradeoffs ?


Hello Poilu. Mine was not a review, just an observation. The review to start the thread shows the trade-offs I refer to, such as loss of IQ at edges and similar performance from the f2.8 for much less cost.

In the end, if one wants a unique rendering, shallow depth of field and still strong performance (for the center bulk of the image at least), the 2.8 is not applicable and we pay for that, obviously.

Otoh, I'm inclined to accept the vignette and softer edges wide open as an advantage to the bokeh shooting I prefer. Win-win for me =)

Regards,


Kelly

EDIT: On second thought - I retract my previous assertion there are trade-offs. Since the downsides are of no consequence to my uses, the lens is perfect =D


PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
for me it is ugly!!!
the Distagon 1.4/35mm is 76mm long !!! and its diameter is 70mm!!!
it seems a 80-90mm lens ..but it isn't !!!!!!


PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
metallaro1980 wrote:
for me it is ugly!!!
the Distagon 1.4/35mm is 76mm long !!! and its diameter is 70mm!!!
it seems a 80-90mm lens ..but it isn't !!!!!!


Ugly in physical appearance? heh! How about performance? It's size is necessary due to its wide aperture.

I would myself probably refrain from using certain lenses in certain circumstances based on appearance or due to size, but find the Distagon of no extraordinary burden. Fits in any normal lens pocket in my bag.

K.


PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This lens is just fabulous and mtf test are not parangon... Surprised
In my opinion, it could render the real life colour and contrast

Pictures with k10d








PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
nice samples fourmix! a rollei tri bokeh!
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