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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:37 pm    Post subject: Canon 50/0.95 Reply with quote

I've been hearing alot about this lens lately. Some people hate, some people love it. And it goes for sky-high prices on ebay.

Does anyone have any experience with it? Is it really worth the insane prices it goes for?



PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Canon 50/0.95 Reply with quote

Socrates wrote:
I've been hearing alot about this lens lately. Some people hate, some people love it. And it goes for sky-high prices on ebay.

Does anyone have any experience with it? Is it really worth the insane prices it goes for?



Do not hesitate to buy that lens. if you get a chance ..

I mean for reasonable money -- that lens is a highly valuable item.

tf


PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an extreme lens, so it will provoke extreme reactions.
Those who really want extreme "speed" on fullframe, this is one of very few opportunities. Expensive yes - but much cheaper than the latest Leica Noctilux. Wink

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Socrates, may I ask if the images you show are yours?
If not, please add at least a source link, ok? It's just a matter of fairness to the photographer.
If they are yours, everything's fine.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a lot of glass.


PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Canon has a lot of aberrations. The Leica is better by far.


Rino.


PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

estudleon wrote:
That Canon has a lot of aberrations. The Leica is better by far.
Rino.


Oh really?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/2969516774_fedb257546_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2542/4054645797_e5127447de_z.jpg?zz=1

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2395/2265978179_ff0e86ca0a_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2368/2166676632_f9fd314756_b.jpg

"I recently bought a Canon f.95 lens from a forum member. I have read many despariging comments about this lens and wanted to see for myself how something so heralded in it's debut could fall so far from perfection. I had previously bought a Canon f1.2 lens, also much maligned. It was obviously out of adjustment, so I sent it to be repaired with Don Golberg (D.A.G.) and it came back a wonderful performer. The ,95 also was out of alignment at infinity and I sent it out to Don as well. I decided to test it against my current version Noctilux, and fully expected it to perform much below this venerated optic. OK, the Noctilux does seem to have the advantage in contrast (not always the best thing pictorially I have found), but the Canon actually appears to outperform the Noctilux at 10 feet in the center. A real surprise. All images were shot at 1/1000 wide open on Fuji Acros. I used a B+W MRC UV filter on the Noctilux and an original Canon UV on the .95. The scans were done from negatives on a Polaroid 4000. No sharpening was used, only levels were adjusted. Draw your own conclusions, but I believe the reason many of these older lenses get a bada rep is because people use them without checking to see if the years and use have put them out of adjustment. I have found with two older Canon lenses, that if you have them professinal ly looked at, they can be made to perform extraordinarily well for such old glass."
Charlie Lemay
http://photo.net/leica-rangefinders-forum/0099xZ

Compared to the very small number of Canon owners who have their .95s adjusted and know what to do with it, the nocti crowd is leigon and all too ready to dismiss what they know nothing about.

The 85/1.5 Canon LTM I just found is another ground breaking Canon optic maligned as "soft", when in fact few own it and fewer work with it enough to get the best out of it.

here that one is handheld at 1/60 @1.5 the other night, wide open:



A really clean copy of a .95 Canon for anything under 2.5K is quite a good value for an utterly unique optic Smile


PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I confirm the Canon 50/0.95 is a great lens, despite a bad reputation dating back from a few reviews that I suspect were made by guys with badly adjusted rangefinders. Here's an old thread with some pictures from mine:

http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-50mm-f-0-90-t21083,start,15.html#182031

Cheers!

Abbazz


PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uhoh7 wrote:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/2969516774_fedb257546_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2542/4054645797_e5127447de_z.jpg?zz=1

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2395/2265978179_ff0e86ca0a_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2368/2166676632_f9fd314756_b.jpg



wow impressive!
first one for sharpness, and last one is super funtastic crazy Shocked


PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A) In the comparison between the canon and the leica lens, I can't see the canon doing better than the Leica lens.

B) In the example of the four images, the first, really nice, I don't know which aperture was used. I don't think that was a wide open pic. F/5,6? F/8? F/11? Should be. Almost all the lens are good enough at that apertures. There aren't any pics taklen with the leica lens with the same subjects. That should be more objective to take a conclusion.

C) About the second, it's very soft and with very distractive bokeh. I can't see the point of focus, all seem to me to be very soft like out of focus.

D) The last two, with a very distractive bokeh. I don't like them.

The bokeh of the nocti isn't so good, perhaps the first version should be a bit better for me.

And the bad reputation, don't became only by the magazines, no. That opinions became by a lot of users, some of them are friends of mine.

Now I can say, again, the leica was a better lens than the 0,5 Canon, by far

Rino.


PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

estudleon wrote:


Now I can say, again, the leica was a better lens than the 0,5 Canon, by far

Rino.


There is always a better lens for twice the money, my friend.

Not really the point, is it?

Besides the fact it's debatable with these wild high character models.

I've heard it said the CV 1.1 is better than the nocti as well. Loudly. Smile


PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know, I don't try the 1.1
yet.

Rino


PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had my nokton 1.1 out tonite:







PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

estudleon wrote:
Now I can say, again, the leica was a better lens than the 0,5 Canon, by far

Rino.


And on this picture : the quality of the canon 0.95 is very poor
http://www.taunusreiter.de/Cameras/Canon_RF_2e.html

Never forget that on all 0.95/1.0/1.1/1.2 lenses dof is very very narrow and out of focus comes very fast (as fast as the lens !)


PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nokton lens.

Very nice pics posted.

Good contrast for me.

Rino.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PBFACTS wrote:
estudleon wrote:
Now I can say, again, the leica was a better lens than the 0,5 Canon, by far

Rino.


And on this picture : the quality of the canon 0.95 is very poor
http://www.taunusreiter.de/Cameras/Canon_RF_2e.html

Never forget that on all 0.95/1.0/1.1/1.2 lenses dof is very very narrow and out of focus comes very fast (as fast as the lens !)


For that reason, it's a good habit to explain to the viewers where the focus point is, when the image is for a test or similar.

Rino.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

any time you look for samples from a super tight DOF lens, you are going to get alot of bad shots, hehe

Here is the nokton in very dim light:





below, Canon LTM 50/1.2


not as sharp as nokton, but utterly unique rendering

the little Pen F 42mm F/1.2 is probably sharper than either:


The Pen cannot cover FF, but aps-C is no problem. It might be the best of all super speeds for the APS-C in terms of sharpness, though perhaps nFD 50/1.2 L is sharper


PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last one is great. And the pie looks fantastic Very Happy


PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, here's a decent deal on the .95:

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost-classifieds/showproduct.php/product/29698/title/fs-3a-m-mount-canon-50mm-f0-95-rf-dream-lens/cat/2