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Lazzaros
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:36 pm Post subject: Bessa-L Russian Lenses |
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Lazzaros wrote:
I'm thinking buying some russian M39 lenses to my bessa-L but I know some of them couldn't work in it.
I bought an Helios multifinder to use some cheaper lenses because my Heliar was a bit expensive.
Wich one could I use (or couldn't use) in my bessa-L that could be good investiment?
Any focal lenght.
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
All lens must work what is not goes deep into body like Jupiter-12.
I think Jupiter-3,8,9,11 will works without any trouble. _________________ -------------------------------
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
The J12 will be a problem. It is an excellent lens but, has a very deep rear element that will interfere with the metering diode of the Bessa L.
There are other less common and more expensive M39 Russians that may have trouble as well.
The Russar20 is one I have read is troublesome. It is getting quite expensive these days. A CV 20 may be a better option (it comes with an excellent VF).
That multi-finder will take some getting accustomed to. I have abandoned mine for dedicated finders from CV and Zeiss.
If I can suggest. Try taking a J3 and see how it goes before buying a full complement of lenses for your Bessa L.
The Bessa L was really intended more for wide angle lenses. At this point I only use mine with 15, 20, and 25mm lenses.
Better to have a RF body for longer 35,50, and 80mm lenses (longer than 80 is no use to me on RF).
There are lots of cheap m39 RF bodies to cut your teeth on _________________ Moderator |
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Lazzaros
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
I'll try a cheap russian lens with my helios finder and try to get used to them.
I bought Heliar 15mm with viewfinder too.
I have to see some cheap RF for my portraits.
What do you recommend? |
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Lazzaros wrote: |
I'll try a cheap russian lens with my helios finder and try to get used to them.
I bought Heliar 15mm with viewfinder too.
I have to see some cheap RF for my portraits.
What do you recommend? |
J-9 85mm f2 _________________ -------------------------------
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Lazzaros
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Last question was about an RF body (if bessa-l is better with wide angles...)
I'll try to see that lens too. |
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
J9 is great. I have a later black one in m39.
Honestly I never use it. The Sonnar 2/80 is first in this FL for me.
CZ Opton 2/80 Sonnar wide open
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Sonnar sound always good! Beautiful capture! Perspective so excellent! _________________ -------------------------------
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Thanks Attila
This shot is relatively low resolution with the RD1.
The Sonnar on Sensia just jumps with life and beautiful quiet Bokeh as this shot shows. _________________ Moderator
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Lazzaros
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
amazing performance.
Yesterday I saw some Nokton 35/1.2 pictures
Amazing lens too. |
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Lazzaros
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
I can use this one Click here to see on Ebay in my bessa-L right?
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
That is an excellent lens and VF. Especially for B+W use.
This price would be a nice deal also but for the separation in the rear element.
Take a pass here.
There is a Flikr group for these old canon RF lenses if I remember correctly.
All are excellent.
I have a 2/85 that is actually a Planar variant.
The IQ is excellent. My copy has 15 blades. I think the sharpness/Bokeh at f4 are superb for most any use.
This lens can be found cheap. It is an excellent alternative to the J9 as the bokeh is nicer (no ugly double lines in the highlights as the J9 has).
Here is a thread. Scroll down for a few samples.
http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-2-85-m39-t10794.html _________________ Moderator |
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Lazzaros
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
It looks amazing
I really like the bokeh.
If I'm not wrong mu Helios Multifinder has 85mm view too.
I know I haven't paralxe correction but with time I get used to it.
I'll practise I'm sure hehe.
I'd like to try a new kind of portraits. Using film to it. I have a DSLR a Medium Format and now an "almost" RF.
Even with my Heliar 15mm (comming with another Bessa-L) I'll try to get some nice portraits.
Could you please explain me why everyone tell that Bessa-L isn't good to FL above 25mm? If I use a 50mm or 85mm in it will I have problems of any kind? |
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