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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: Canon 2/85 m39 Reply with quote

Click here to see on Ebay

This was too inexpensive to pass up.
Any experience with it anyone?
I would guess it to be yet another sonnar clone but I have not really searched it yet.

Very Happy

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats for the bargain!
I expect from it the same quality we saw in Koji's Canon RF lenses.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I have a tiny bit of info.
The lens is aperantly quite a heavyweight. Six element improved gauss (planar) scheme.
Supposedly a bit soft open becoming quite sharp (sounds like a lens Rolling Eyes ) with nice bokeh.
Here is a flikr page with a bunch of family picnic shots. Nothing to really wow on this page but it looks like I made a nice deal anyway
Very Happy


PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact that it's a double gauss is nice for a change!
Most old teles for rangefinder were only Sonnar or Tessar.
I look forward to your samples - the gallery you linked to shows already the signs of good sharpness and nice bokeh.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Huh?
I expected a sonnar copy also. In fact that was my hope at first.
The gallery does show promise of a nice portrait style lens.
I hope I can get the goods out of it.
My tele and RF experience is limited to not having any Rolling Eyes Laughing

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know anything about longer than 60mm lens, promise. Very Happy

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

60? that is an odd FL

Does this mean that you will spring on us with the hexanon 1.2/60 for the next lens of the day Shocked Very Happy

I hope yes is the answer. What an unusual lens

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All
Here is a quicky update on this lens. It did arrive and it is in mint condition.
My feeling is this will be a gem for portraits.
The lens is very solid and heavy. Build is excellent but not really very elegant.
The body has a nice shape but is quite large for a RF lens even for this FL.
A few features of interest:

15 aperure blades and completely round iris Very Happy
The focus is heavy and very smooth. Fantastic for selective focus .
The aperture control ring turns with the focus ring. This can prove quite problematic as the aperture index is not always in view Sad

I like using it. Canon was on to something with this guy.
Maybe the next generation f1.9 version has a different design that gets around the silly aperture control this one has.
Here are a few samples to look at Bokeh.
This lens is essentially a "planar" scheme from what I have read. I think the bokeh is as quiet and soft as you could ever expect.
Contrast is a bit low. This lens will be very forgiving for portraits and, quite strong for that purpose.
I will post more samples and with human subjects soon.
BTW that flower is a plumeria. Not something you see in Washington state often.
I guess we have some luck with these beauties.

Conditions today: the wind is really blowing. Focus point is intended on the bigger bloom but not always there. These are for a Bokeh comparison mosty please look for the actual focus point to see sharpness;)




F8 ISO 1600 for this one to slow down the wind

F2 torture test. Pretty good rendering. See the spider web

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This lens is more than decent one, I think.

A good catch, Andy.

Zeiss says there will be Sonnar 4/85 ZM,
of course Cosina makes it, but why f4?
(Their F2 is TOO expensive. Shocked )

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats for this new beauty!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Guys
He seems to have some nice traits for a $60 purchase Smile
I hope to try it with some better light. It was very stormy yesterday.
Flat light and wind is not fair to a lens. That is why I say just look at the bokeh.
I think this bokeh is very smooth.
Look at f4 and f8 it is very quiet. Smile

@ Koji
I think they made it f4 to keep safe the expensive sonnar from competition.
It is a business decision probably Rolling Eyes

If the lens is nice and compact as a trade off then f4 will be just fine.
I saw an image of the f2 sonnar mounted on the ZI and it looks like a monster Shocked
Still would love to have it Very Happy
This Seranar will sufice for now Wink