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Orio
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 Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:57 pm Post subject: Battered 1938's collapsible Sonnar 2/50 |
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Orio wrote:
I have this versenkbar Sonnar 2/50 made in 1938, really in battered condition, poor lens 
it looks like a dog has bitten it on the barrel (like teeth marks   )
But glass is pristine and look how it works - no coating!!!!!  no edit on picture, it's straight out of the M9.
Wide open:
It's the best performing Contax Sonnar 50mm amongst all those that I have.
It reminds me of the rendering of the 1.4/35 Distagon!
Especially when it comes to lenses, it is really true that you don't have to judge a book by it's cover!
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
nice example for silly MINT Hunters ...
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Orio
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| nice example for silly MINT Hunters ... |
Yes! Also because you can get a lens like this nearly for free! 
Another sample from this amazing lens, this time at f/5.6 infinity.
It's a very dull day, yet note what strong clarity and dimensionality
(no Leica glow, sorry  )
Remember, lens is from 1938 which means it has no coating!! Here I am shooting backlight
I am liking it better than my Contax Planar 1.4/50!
again, no edit on picture, straight out of camera with standard settings:
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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ludoo wrote:
Wow, what a camera/lens combination!
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Nesster wrote:
Beautiful pics --- if you still have the lens, could you post some detailed pics of the rear end, as I have what may be a collapsible Sonnar, only the mount is loose and I'd love to figure out how it is fixed on.
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
| Nesster wrote: |
| Beautiful pics --- if you still have the lens, could you post some detailed pics of the rear end, as I have what may be a collapsible Sonnar, only the mount is loose and I'd love to figure out how it is fixed on. |
I don't remember if I sold or kept this one  I had several copies of this lens, it's common and quite cheap here
I'll have a look tomorrow - if I still have it, I'll surely photograph it for you.
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Rick1779 wrote:
impressive! |
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Orio wrote:
OK, I found it.
Photos soon (tomorrow).
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| Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:54 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
First pic clearly illustrates why I like the 2/50 Sonnar, fab results! |
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
Cheers, Rick and Bill.
Jussi, I took this photo hand held in horrible light, but maybe it's enough for you to figure out.
If it isn't, I will take a better one with daylight.
Left to right:
- non-collapsible model
- collapsible model, fully retracted
- collapsible model, fully extended
Note that you can easily tell the collapsible from the fixed one by some elements:
- collapsible is shorter (ok, not much use if you don't have a comparison term  )
- collapsible has a longer front ring, the fixed one has a thin front ring
- in the collapsible model, the gap between the movable part and the static part is noticeable, the fixed model has a whole barrel with no gaps
HTH,
Orio
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kds315* wrote:
Very fine performance it has!
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Nesster wrote:
Yes perfect, Orio, thank you.
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Selenium_27 wrote:
How did you adapt it ??
I've got one sleeping on my shelves and I would like to teste it, based on what you showed us !!
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
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How did you adapt it ??
I've got one sleeping on my shelves and I would like to teste it, based on what you showed us !! |
I have a Contax-M adapter, made by Amedeo in Argentina
It works well with standard lens, not so well with tele lenses (focus coupling a bit off).
Beware, it's expensive - but made of top quality materials and machinery.
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ForenSeil wrote:
Wooow!
"Versenkbar" is German and simply means "collapsible" btw.
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