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chris_weinert
Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Posts: 36 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject: Anyone also uses a Contax (Carl Zeiss) 3,4/35-70mm? |
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chris_weinert wrote:
Hello,
I just received my Carl Zeiss Vario Sonnar 35-70/3.4 and have two questions for those who have already used it:
When I turn it around its axis, as in: turn the camera between portrait/landscape, it makes noise like an automatic mechanic watch, a very low noise like something's winding inside. Is this normal?
Haven't tested it thoroughly yet, but it seems like at wide open (well, not wide, but 3.4...), I get quite a bit of color aberration (cyan glows) on a high-contrast motive, as soon as it's slightly out of focus. In this case this was the white heater-sidepanel with cutouts in it, so white/dark, and we're talking about the center of the picture.
I don't have an appropriate matte yet, so it's not very easy to focus, and I noticed this when I zoomed into the pictures on the display of my 5DII.
Can anyone relate to this?
Thanks in advance,
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10471 Location: Greece
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
Chris wrote: |
When I turn it around its axis, as in: turn the camera between portrait/landscape, it makes noise like an automatic mechanic watch, a very low noise like something's winding inside. Is this normal? |
welcome
no, the sound is not normal. maybe the lens fall and have moving pieces inside
for aberration show a sample, some purple fringing could appear in high contrast but should not be too apparent |
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chris_weinert
Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Posts: 36 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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chris_weinert wrote:
The sound is not "unhealty" actually, its sounds like a soft winding mechanism. Plus, it only lasts for a quarter turn, then it stops. Like if I turn the camera upright (portrait) it makes the noise, if I turn it back to landscape and portrait in the other direction, it makes the noise, but then if i turn it further (upside down) it stops. Hm shit, it would suck if I had to send it back...
One more thing: How do you get to the Macro range? If I extend the tube until 35mm, I still can't turn the focus ring past the 0,7m mark. I know there's supposed to be a resistance, but I turned quite forceful and don't want to apply more force actually...
Thanks,
Chris _________________ Canon 5DII |
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poilu
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
mine make also a soft winding noise but I had to check it to notice
the lens have to be fully extended at 35 mm to engage the macro, even 1 mm less and it doesn't work |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Welcome and enjoy your stay!
"Carl Zeiss Vario Sonnar 35-70/3.4" ... nice start!
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chris_weinert
Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Posts: 36 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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chris_weinert wrote:
Wow, this is pretty lively, so many responses so quickly! Thanks!
Here's a 100% crop. The fringing seen on the left pic only appears from one "side", i.e. if I am just *slightly* in backfocus, whereas if I'm slightly frontfocussing, there's no fringing (right picture):
The macro is definitely not working I pulled/turned quite a bit now, I feel I'm gonna break the thing if I apply more force. How can that be?
Thanks,
Chris _________________ Canon 5DII |
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koji
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Mine does not make any strange noise, I checked it a minute ago.
I think your lens is not in normal condition, also the above shots
look a bit soft even they are 100% crops. This lens is quite sharp IMO. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Sound in Contax lens = not good
Your other symptoms make me think you have a damaged lens unfortunately. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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chris_weinert
Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Posts: 36 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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chris_weinert wrote:
Oh man, how bad. I was sooooo looking forward to this lens...
Ok, so you're saying this fringing thing is not normal? I should send it back, huh?
Might wanna add the crops are from 3.4/70mm, and of course the pictures are out of focus, the one with the fringing only slightly, the other one a little more I guess.
Thanks,
Chris _________________ Canon 5DII
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Thanks for the "Berlin".
I do not know the Contax/Zeiss lenses well, but when Orio says it's not good, you can be sure it's not good.
A Zeiss lens should not go "clickertyclack". And it shouldn't be soft either. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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pirius
Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 133 Location: SoFla
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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pirius wrote:
I can hear slight click when I turn my copy around (MMJ version). But it works perfectly, including the macro mode. I have never seen a soft image coming of it (unless there was a camera shake/motion blur involved). It may show a little bit of CA sometimes but in my experience it is very well controlled in this lens - much better than in Planar when shot wide open, for example. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16593 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Nope, both is not normal (sounds/softness) - I had a similar case not too long ago and it turned out that a very
small screw inside the helicoid got loose and needed to be fixed again. I would certainly stop trying to make it
worse (i.e using it) and either give it back or have it serviced ASAP.
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chris_weinert
Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Posts: 36 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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chris_weinert wrote:
So, for all those who will ever face the same problem:
1) The problem with the blocked Macro was a that the rail inside apparently had displaced a little, it was fixed back to its original position and now it's working perfectly.
2) The problem with the noise while turning I was told is normal, as the blade mechanism of the lens is apparently contains a ball bearing which is the source of/reason for the noise.
3) The fringing is gone, although nothing was repaired other than the rail mentioned above. Fine for me.
Again, thanks for your feedback here!
Best,
Chris _________________ Canon 5DII |
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Bruce
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote:
nice come back Chris, wish more would do this. _________________ Digital: Canon 40d & 5DmkII, Film: Hasselblad 203fe/Zeiss 80/2.8 cfe
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