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eeyore_nl
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 837 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject: Amazed about the Pentacon 50/1.8 |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
Frankly, I always considered my Pentacon 50/1.8 as a "not too good" lens. It was a 5 euro lens, so no harm done
But today I took it out with me, and used it to make some pictures in Utrecht. I must admit that I am pretty much amazed! Of course it's not a super lens, but it is far better than I had expected.
Look at the full size image of a gondelier (spelling?) in the Utrecht canals:
http://www.ipernity.com/doc/jthole/4982817/sizes/o
Canon 30D (shot in RAW)
Canon DPP processing:
"Landscape" picture style
Sharpness 3
Contrast 0
Shot with f/8 (the lens turns out to be pretty good from f/4 and up)
For easier viewing, here is the small version
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
No bad lens made in Russia and East Germany even if they are cheap this is generally true as you have clear evidence , this lens me surprised also. Nice samples congrats! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: Amazed about the Pentacon 50/1.8 |
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rawhead wrote:
eeyore_nl wrote: |
Shot with f/8 (the lens turns out to be pretty good from f/4 and up)
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I agree
_________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Not super lens? OK.
I used for 15 years the summicron M 50/2, the best 50 lens of the history, and the pentacon 50 too (for @ 20 years) I had both simultaneously and can tell you that at F/ 8 and 11 the differences are very, very subtles, and at F/4 and 5,6 centers you have to see the slides with a lupe 30 x to see the differences, that they are there, yes, but very subtles, more in contrast.
It's a very good every day use lens: Focus from 33 cm, F/1,8 is usefull for the 90 % of the situations to take a pic, It's easy to dissamble and clean, relube, etc.
In MF we know that not always cheap is synonymous of bad quality.
Congratulation for your pentaqcon. You have a very good lens.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Superb sample! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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djmike
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 1:34 am Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
Subfanatic wrote: |
I really love this lens, it's amongst my favorite 50mm primes. The "cheapness" factor is probably due to abundance - there's a bunch of them on the market - and there are many versions too. The one I have looks just like a Zeiss Pancolar, it's very good at f1.8, very contrasty and sharp like a hell from f2.8 up. It makes my EF-S 60mm f2.8 Macro look like a Domiplan, and that's a really tough job
The sample was taken with Canon 300D @f2.8 (JPEG directly from the camera, sharpness +3, contrast +1).
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Subfanatic, great sample. You make the lens worth like 50 euro. _________________
DSLR: Canon 400D
SLR: Nikon FM2 + Canon A-1 + Canon AE1-P + Praktica MTL-5B + Pentax Spotmatic F + Fujica ST801 + Voigtlander Bassematic + Voigtlander Vito + Rollei 35S + Rolleiflex SL35 ME + Canon QL17 GIII + Olympus Pen EE-3
Lenses
M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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Bruce
Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 842 Location: Boston, Ma USA
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote:
Thats one pretty cat... It looks the wild cat! _________________ Digital: Canon 40d & 5DmkII, Film: Hasselblad 203fe/Zeiss 80/2.8 cfe
Adapters for EOS: Cy; M42; Zenit39; Exakta; LeicaR; OlympusOM; PK; Nikon; Rollei35; Retina; Adaptal; P-6 |
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aoleg
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1387 Location: Berlin, DE
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:15 am Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
Subfanatic wrote: |
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That's one WILD cat!! _________________ List of lenses |
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Wormhandler
Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 106 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Wormhandler wrote:
I have the same experience with the Pentacon 50mm 1.8
I also have the one looking like a pancolor.
Subfanatic - Great picture of the cat.
/Jan _________________
Those which I use:
Carl Zeiss Jena:Tessar 5cm 3,5 Tessar 2,8 50mm (3 versions), Sonnar 135mm 3,5, Tessar 135mm 4,5 (Compur), Flektogon 35mm 2,4, Sonnar 180mm 2,8, Sonnar 300mm 4
Cosina Voigtländer:125mm 2,5 Macro APO Lanthar.
Enna Werk Munchen:Tele-zoom 85-250mm
Ernst Leitz Wetzlar:Voort 90mm 4, Hektor 135mm 4,5
Helios:Helios 44-4 (& 44-2) 58mm 2
Industar:Industar 5cm 3,5, Industar-22 5cm 3,5-rangefinder
Isco Göttingen:Tele Westanar 180mm 4
Meyer Optik Görlitz:Lydith 30mm 3,5, Domiplan 50mm 2,8, Primotar 50 3,5, Orestor 135mm 2,8, Telemegor 150 5,5, Telemegor 180mm 5,5, Orestegor 200mm 4 Telemegor 400mm 5,6.
Mir:Mir 1B 37mm 2,8
Nikon:
Nikkor 35 1.4, Nikkor 85 2, Series E 35mm 2,5, Nikkor 35mm 2, Micro Nikkor 55mm 2,8, Series E 100mm 2,8, Nikkor 135m 2,8, Zoom-Nikkor 35-105mm.
Olympus:F-Zuiko Auto-S 50mm 1.8 (m42), E-zuiko Auto-T 135mm 2,5 (m42), Zuiko 85mm 2 MC (OM)
Panagor (Same as vivitar i Guess):28mm 2,5, 200mm 3,5
Pentacon29mm 2,8, 50mm 1,8, 135mm 2,8
Pentax:Auto takumar 35mm 3.5
SMC-takumar 28 3.5, SMC-Takumar 50mm 1.4, SMC-takumar 135mm 3.5, Takumar (bayonet) 135mm 2.5,Takumar 500mm 4
SMC M 35mm 3.5, SMC M 40 2.8, SMC M 50mm 2, SMC M 50mm 1.7, SMC A 50mm 2, SMC M 100 2.8, SMC M 100mm 4 Macro, SMC M 135mm 3,5 SMC M 200mm 4, SMC M 80-200mm 4,5
Shacht af Ulm:Edixa travenar 50mm 2,8, Edixa Travenar 135mm 3,5
Schneider KreuznachXenar 50mm 3,5, Xenar 50mm 2,8, Radionar 80mm 2,9 (Folder), Radionar 10,5cm 4,5 (Folder), Tele-Xenar 135mm 3,5, Symmar 150mm 5,6, Tele-Xenar 200mm 5,5.
Soligor:100-300mm 5 C/D.
Steinheil:Actinar 10,5cm 4,5 (Prontor)
Tamron:Adaptall2 28mm 2.5, Adaptall2 35-70 3.5, Auto Tamron 28 2.8, Auto.tamron 105 2.5, Auto-tamron 135 2.8, Auto Tamron 200 3.5, Auto Tamron 300 5.6 Tamron SP 70-210 3.5-4
Tokyo Koki:Tele-Tokina 135mm 2.8, Tele-Tokina 135mm 3.5 (brand kennex), Tele-Tokina 300 5.5.
Vivitar:Series 1 70-210 (Kiron)
Yashica:
Auto Yashinon-DX 50mm 1.7, Auto Yashinon-DX 50mm 2, Yashica ML 50mm 1.7, Yashica ML 50mm 2 |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
very good samples and the cat is lovely. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:33 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
very nice samples!
blue cat is superb! |
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PaulC
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 2318
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
Most 50mm prime lenses are very good. Maybe people today forget that the 50mm was the "standard" lens and for decades they were supplied with every 35mm SLR. That meant economies of scale allowed high quality at a reasonable cost. _________________ View or buy my photos at:
http://shutterstock.com/g/paulcowan |
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mflex-on
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:16 am Post subject: Oreston 1.8/50 |
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mflex-on wrote:
I have an older Oreston 1.8/50, the predecessor of the Pentacon lens. There is some sort of glowing in the pictures with the aperture wide open.
This can be a disadvantage, but for me it is an advantage. Portraits can be silky smooth, combined with the nearest focussing distance you can "paint" almost surreal looking pictures.
mflex
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:18 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
A good lens apart from many copies have oily aperture blades so check before you buy. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
A good lens apart from many copies have oily aperture blades so check before you buy. |
Super cat!!
You catch the moment.
Oily blades? You can buy it and clean the blades in less than 5 min.
It's among the best lenses to play as "repaiman".
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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eeyore_nl
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 837 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
Subfanatic wrote: |
Haha The looks can deceive sometimes, he's in fact very cuddly and loves kids
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He's not allowed to see you?
Very sharp and colorful picture! |
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landyman
Joined: 06 May 2009 Posts: 9 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:59 am Post subject: |
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landyman wrote:
I find my copy is sharp at f3.5 and wide open its quite nice for portraits. Heres some more samples.
1. Chives (f5.6)
2. Flower Patch (f7.1)
3. an insect on a chive (f3.5 or f2.8 i cant remember)
2. Larch tree. I like the out of focus effect wide open.
See the full set here _________________ Sony a200. A dead zenit em. Pentacon 50mm f1.8 (fixed and quite sharp). Helios 44-2, Tak 55 f1.8 (broken arpeture, waiting for repair). The mighty tair 300. Plus several auto focus minoltas/sonys |
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eeyore_nl
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 837 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:21 am Post subject: |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
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2. Larch tree. I like the out of focus effect wide open.
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The OOF effects wide open are bizarre indeed
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mflex-on
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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mflex-on wrote:
Very glowing but nevertheless sharp
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Helios
Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 537 Location: East of France
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Helios wrote:
This cat is wonderful . Is it a "Russian Blue" ? (Same green eyes) . |
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Gus Helios
Joined: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 144 Location: Cali
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Gus Helios wrote:
Subfanatic
That is one of the most beautiful cats and one of the best cat shots ever!
I really only did some test shots with the Pentacon when I got it, but I liked what I saw. After seeing all these beautiful shots with it, I really need to go back and shoot for a week with it to get a better feel for it.
Here are a few of my shots.
Love the oof area on this one, sometimes the spacey oof works.
_________________ Nothing a shot a jack and some George Jones can't fix - Gus |
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djmike
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:16 am Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
I always ignore this one after Pancolar and SMC. I have to check and re-rank mine. _________________
DSLR: Canon 400D
SLR: Nikon FM2 + Canon A-1 + Canon AE1-P + Praktica MTL-5B + Pentax Spotmatic F + Fujica ST801 + Voigtlander Bassematic + Voigtlander Vito + Rollei 35S + Rolleiflex SL35 ME + Canon QL17 GIII + Olympus Pen EE-3
Lenses
M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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A G Photography
Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 1480 Location: Bologna - Italy
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A G Photography wrote:
We "aficionados" of Meyer lenses aren't surprised at all... I far prefer the Oreston and its late Pentacon version that every Pentax, Canon and also Nikon 50 mm. It can beats the Contax Zeiss 50/1.4 planar bokeh wise every day too.
Too often we're attracted by sharpness but a shot is a lot more than this and bokeh and color rendering are far more important to me. _________________ Alessandro
My Photography Website
My Blog about Photography and Italian Cuisine
My Photostream on Flickr
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DSLR: Nikon d80, Olympus e410
SLR: Chinon CX, Fujica ST605n, Nikon f601, Pentacon FM, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Praktica FX, Praktica FX2, Voigtlander VST1, Yashica FX-3, Zeiss Contaflex
RF: Altissa Altix, Zorki Ie, Kiev 4b
Medium Format: Pentacon Six TL, Zeiss Ikonta 520/2, Mockba 4, Voigtlander Bessa I, Agfa Isolette II, Agfa Isola
Large Format: Cambo SC 4x5, Rodenstock Sinaron 150/5.6, Rodenstock Rodagon 150/5.6, Schneider Kreuznach Symmar 180/5.6
Lenses
Nikkors: 28/3.5 AIS, 35/2, 50/1.8, 50/2 H, Micro 55/3.5, Micro 60/2.8, 85/1.8, 135/3.5 AI, 200/4 NAI, 18-55/3.5-5.6, 28-80/3.5-5.6, 55-200/4-5.6
CY: Distagon 28/2.8, Planar 50/1.4, Yashika 50/1.7, Sonnar 135/2.8
CZJ m42-Exakta: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Pancolar 50/2, Biotar 58/2, Biotar 75/1.5, Tessar 80/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 135/4, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Flektogon 65/2.8, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Orestegon 29/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Orestegor 300/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5, Tele Xenar 200/4
Russians: Arsat Zodiak 30/3.5, Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Industar-61 50/2.8, Helios 44 58/2, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Helios 40 85/1.5, Jupiter 9 85/2, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schacht Travegon 35/3.5, Schacht Travenon 135/4.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 50/1.4, S-Takumar 55/1.8, S-Takumar 55/2, Steinheil Quinar 135/2.8, Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5, Vivitar 135/2.8, Voigtlander Ultron 50/1.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:39 am Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
A G Photography wrote: |
We "aficionados" of Meyer lenses aren't surprised at all... I far prefer the Oreston and its late Pentacon version that every Pentax, Canon and also Nikon 50 mm. It can beats the Contax Zeiss 50/1.4 planar bokeh wise every day too.
Too often we're attracted by sharpness but a shot is a lot more than this and bokeh and color rendering are far more important to me. |
Hear hear! That's why I now have three of these Just added to my collection, what must be the transitional lens between Oreston and Pentacon MC, a single-coated Pentacon 50/1.8 without an A/M switch (but a DoF checker switch), that has a knurled focus ring resembling Takumars. _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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estudleon wrote:
A G Photography wrote: |
We "aficionados" of Meyer lenses aren't surprised at all... I far prefer the Oreston and its late Pentacon version that every Pentax, Canon and also Nikon 50 mm. It can beats the Contax Zeiss 50/1.4 planar bokeh wise every day too.
Too often we're attracted by sharpness but a shot is a lot more than this and bokeh and color rendering are far more important to me. |
Hi, Alessandro.
Sometimes I thought about my madness, and the belif in the excelent IQ of the pentacon was one of the manifestation of that madness.
But now see that I'm not the only one
Till I know, the zebra oreston is better build. A friend of mine put the MC glass in the zebra body. He did it with the 3,5/135 ZCJ too.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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