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 Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:21 am Post subject: 28mm TEST - ASAHI vs SOLIGOR vs AUTOREVUENON |
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padiej wrote:
Hallo!
Three 28mm are now in competition:
1) Asahi Takumar SMC 28/3,5 M42 (Ebayprice: 34,16€) - like new
2) SOLIGOR C/D 28/2,8 PK (17€) blind is slow
3) AUTO REVUENON MC 28/2,8 PK (36€) - like new
The Soligor has a slow blind, the others are like new, super mechanik, clear and good maintained.
All of them are good, I think.
Soligor is the sharpest.
The Takumar are on M42, it could be the oldest len´s amongst them.
Another pic from the auto revuenon:
I hope, this test will show something about the 28mm lenses about 30€.
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LucisPictor wrote:
Which aperture did you shoot the bookshelf with?
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
I'm surprised with the Takumar result.
I have this lens.
Any idea who made the Revuenon ? |
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padiej
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padiej wrote:
An Carsten:
The aperture was 4,0.
A german side explain the source of revuenon:
Sigma or Mamiya and onother producer´s (lower quality)
www.allerlei.gmxhome.de/revue.htm
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Laurence wrote:
Are the bookshelf images possibly out of focus? Something seems "off" to me, maybe it's just my tired old eyes! 
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luisalegria wrote:
I think the bookshelf shots are crops. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
| luisalegria wrote: |
I'm surprised with the Takumar result.
I have this lens. |
Me too.
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Attila wrote:
My 28mm f3.5 SMC Takumar was quiet crappy.
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Laurence wrote:
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| I think the bookshelf shots are crops. |
Hi luis - yes, they are crops...but it looks like the focus still might no be right on target. Again, might just be me.
And Peter, THANKS for posting. The Revuenon looks the best to me, on the bookshelf test. Maybe my eyes ARE all too old!
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
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| My 28mm f3.5 SMC Takumar was quiet crappy. |
Must have been a lemon I guess. I'm very pleased with mine
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Attila wrote:
Seems yes!
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hasan wrote:
To be honest, up to this test, I never saw a bad looking image,
which came from a Takumar.
Peter, maybe you got a bad copy?!
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Orio wrote:
Takumars seem to be solid above-average lenses. I have two SMC Takumars and both are very good, although none is the best of what I have in the respective focal ranges. I'd summarize that they are solid lenses that you can trust.
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padiej wrote:
I will send any pic´s from the takumar and the Soligor. I think, the takumar is also good.
regards Peter
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mjkerpan wrote:
Impressive start, though some crops from "real world" tests would be nice. I'm surprised at how well the Soligor did, given that brand's generally mediocre reputation. |
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peterqd wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| Takumars seem to be solid above-average lenses. I have two SMC Takumars and both are very good, although none is the best of what I have in the respective focal ranges. I'd summarize that they are solid lenses that you can trust. |
The build quality of Takumars is fantastic, the best I have, but I think I have to reluctantly agree with you about the optics. Of the ones I have, the 1.4/50 Super-Tak is brilliant, on a par with the Pancolar 50, and the 3.5/135 S-M-C Tak compares with the CZJ 3.5/135 and the J-37A. The 85, 100 and 105 lenses seem to be popular too. But my 1.8/55 and 3.5/28 SMC are only a bit above average and the 3.5/35 is pretty ordinary.
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padiej wrote:
A walk around with the takumar 1:3,5/25
aperture: 5,6
Pic´s are only resiced.
The lens works very well, but I miss a little bit sharpness.
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padiej wrote:
aperture 5,6
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padiej wrote:
and another takumar test - pic´s
The lens is around 36 Jears old, and one of the first super-multi-coated. It´s like new, the last owner was very nice
Now, I will test the soligor, before the sun goes down.
greeting Peter
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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padiej wrote:
Now some tries with soligor C/D 28mm 1:2,8 aperture 5,6
the soligor
the asahi takumar
The soligor is great, this is a good one, but this is fortune.
The aperture is slow, so I eliminate the aperture-stick, it´s only possible to work with the preset aperture (like M42-lenses).
salute Peter
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padiej wrote:
The sun is in another position, sorry.
The soligor is not so colored. It´s another character. At last, I find the Takumar better, it´s a brisker imaging.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Thank you, interesting comparison.
I don't think the contrast and color difference is properly compared because of the very different lighting, so I would make no conclusion there.
But the Soligor does seem sharper than the Takumar, that is easy to see. |
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poilu wrote:
Thanks for the test Peter
Based on resolution, color, contrast and chromatic aberrations those lens doesn't look very good to me
Maybe it is a processing problem
Do you shot in jpeg ?
What soft and procedure do you use ?
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