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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3219 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:33 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Yeah, cheap kitlenses have surprised me more than once. |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2536
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:51 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
The Pentax-m 28-50mm F3.5-4.5 is a very sharp little gem. _________________ pentaxian |
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Alsatian2017
Joined: 05 Mar 2018 Posts: 243
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Alsatian2017 wrote:
D1N0 wrote: |
The Pentax-m 28-50mm F3.5-4.5 is a very sharp little gem. |
Not in the corners. I've had one sample of it and while it was very sharp near the center the corners never cleared up (on full frame, A7R and A7II). Ive rather recommend the Olympus OM S-Zuiko AUTO-Zoom 28-48mm f/4.0 or, for a wider range, the Tamron SP 24-48 mm f/3.5-3.8, both capable of sharp images throughout the frame. _________________ Personal website : https://volkergilbertphoto.com
Classic lenses : https://volkergilbertphoto.com/objektive/
Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/volker.gilbert/ |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2536
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
Alsatian2017 wrote: |
D1N0 wrote: |
The Pentax-m 28-50mm F3.5-4.5 is a very sharp little gem. |
Not in the corners. I've had one sample of it and while it was very sharp near the center the corners never cleared up (on full frame, A7R and A7II). Ive rather recommend the Olympus OM S-Zuiko AUTO-Zoom 28-48mm f/4.0 or, for a wider range, the Tamron SP 24-48 mm f/3.5-3.8, both capable of sharp images throughout the frame. |
It is very compact so there are going to be some compromises. But the importance of corners is grossly overstated by people. There is border to border sharpness at F8 (and probably much sooner). Some people just think that if the corners are a little blurred that means overall lens quality is bad, despite that the lens delivers. Corner snobs that do not care about photography at all. _________________ pentaxian |
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Alsatian2017
Joined: 05 Mar 2018 Posts: 243
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Alsatian2017 wrote:
D1N0 wrote: |
It is very compact so there are going to be some compromises. But the importance of corners is grossly overstated by people. There is border to border sharpness at F8 (and probably much sooner). Some people just think that if the corners are a little blurred that means overall lens quality is bad, despite that the lens delivers. Corner snobs that do not care about photography at all. |
True, but if you can have sharp corners without compromising on anything else (OK, the Olympus and Tamron are slightly longer and heavier...), why should you keep up with fuzzy ones ? _________________ Personal website : https://volkergilbertphoto.com
Classic lenses : https://volkergilbertphoto.com/objektive/
Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/volker.gilbert/ |
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D1N0
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
The Pentax has better over all IQ than the Tamron and better Build quality. I do not own the Olympus since I can't adapt it to my Pentax. _________________ pentaxian |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2536
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
The new Sigma 28-50 (2.8-3.5) arrived
28mm f8
The Pond 28mm F8 by The lens profile, on Flickr
35mm F8
The Pond 35mm F8 by The lens profile, on Flickr
50mm F8
The Pond 50mm F8 by The lens profile, on Flickr _________________ pentaxian |
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D1N0
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
Bokeh @50mm 3.5
Daffokeh by The lens profile, on Flickr _________________ pentaxian |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3219 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
-As promised, some images with the Nikon AF 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5D. Click few times for full size.
Nikkor2870J_32 by devoscasper, on Flickr
Nikkor2870J_37 by devoscasper, on Flickr
Nikkor2870J_31 by devoscasper, on Flickr
Nikkor2870J_17 by devoscasper, on Flickr
Nikkor2870J_25 by devoscasper, on Flickr
Nikkor2870J_7 by devoscasper, on Flickr
Nikkor2870J_24 by devoscasper, on Flickr |
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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1674
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
Your latest series is a pure joy. Congrats! |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3219 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:03 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
alex ph wrote: |
Your latest series is a pure joy. Congrats! |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4072 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:55 am Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Some weeks ago I got the Yashica ML 3.5/28-50mm. It's a pretty rare lens here in Switzerland, and I was happy to get it for a reasonable price (CHF 50.-- including a beatiful early SR-T101, a Rollei A26, and a huge Metz flash). The lens is quite abit better than the other 28-50mm lneses I had tested previously. It also has sharper corners than the Minolta MD 4/24-50mm which is considered to be a quite good vintage wideangle zoom.
Certainly recommended if you look for a good vintage 28-50mm zoom!
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3219 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
Some weeks ago I got the Yashica ML 3.5/28-50mm. It's a pretty rare lens here in Switzerland, and I was happy to get it for a reasonable price (CHF 50.-- including a beatiful early SR-T101, a Rollei A26, and a huge Metz flash). The lens is quite abit better than the other 28-50mm lneses I had tested previously. It also has sharper corners than the Minolta MD 4/24-50mm which is considered to be a quite good vintage wideangle zoom.
Certainly recommended if you look for a good vintage 28-50mm zoom!
S |
Will definitely grab one, if I find one at a reasonable price! _________________ For Sale:
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
I'm always interested in trading lenses! |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4072 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
I just received a PM by casper79 regarding the YashicaML 3.5/28-50mm:
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Hi Stephan,
You have the Yashica ML 28-50/3.5, right? Just curious how you like it.
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I thought the answer might be useful for others, too - and therefore I will answer here.
I got my Yashica ML 3.5/28-50mm several months ago, but since it had an "1A" filter (with fungus!) practically glued into the 72mm filter thread, I have been running just a few superficial tests - until now. Today I finally was able to remove the dirty filter glass, and to compare the Yashica ML 3.5/28-50mm to the Mamiya Sekor E 3.5-4.5/28-50mm and the Sony Zeiss ZA 2.8/24-70mm. The tests were ran using a 43 MP FF Sony A7RII. I have been looking at resolution / contrast in the infinity range at f=28mm, f=35mm and f=50mm. Apertures were f3.5 f2., f5.6 and f11.
As expected, the more modern Sony Zeiss ZA 2.8/24-70mm was better than the two vintage zooms at all focal lengths and apertures.
However, the Yashica ML was much closer to the Zeiss than to the Mamyia. The Yashica - being much larger than the Mamiya - is surprisingly good at all focal lengths and at all apertures. While at f3.5 the exteme corners are slightly weaker, at f5.6 and atf11 the entire image is surprisingly clean an clear. Some lateral CAs remain (more than with the more modern Zeiss), and the Zeiss looks crisper, but the Yashica performs really good for such an old wideangle zoom.
The Mamiya Sekor E 28-50mm is much smaller (and lighter) than the Yashica. It is as good as (or better) than the other 28-50 (28-55mm) vintage zooms I own, but there's no doubt that the Yashica 3.5/28-50mm is much better, especially in the 50mm range - period.
Sadly I never had the opportunity to test the Canon FD/nFD 3.5/28-50mm (not to be confused with the later "plastic fantastic" nFD 28-55mm) or the Nikkor AiS 4/24-50mm. They both have a good reputation and might be as good as the Yashica ML 3.5/28-50mm mentioned here!
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3219 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Seems to be another lens to feed my GAS 😊 _________________ For Sale:
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
I'm always interested in trading lenses! |
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