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orly_andico
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orly_andico wrote:
@estudleon,
i am such a fan of the tair's bokeh (from the gallery here). i really want to get one but i have so many 135mm already... (i just got a jupiter-37AM today as part of a pack with a helios-44-2 all for $10!) that's in addition to a tak, SMC-M, Kiron, tak-A (the f/2.5), schneider f/4.5... 
and i'm also thinking about the leica elmarit-R 90/2.8 or the 180/2.8... (that, or get a 50-135/2.8 SDM because manual focus is not always the most convenient...)
i have the CZJ and the tak because.. well i didn't know about the tair till very recently. and i got the CZJ about 6 or 7 years ago..
it is possible to simulate the "preset" of the tair / zebra CZJ on the MC CZJ or on Super-Takumars like so: set the aperture to what you want, then you can toggle the A/M switch to stop down.
on the Super-Takumar 50/1.4 the A/M switch is right next to your left thumb, so it's pretty convenient. |
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zewrak
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zewrak wrote:
What about the preset Takumar? I like it. Usually go for 5-10$
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
Scheneider 4,5?
It's seem to me to be sharp plus!!
Rino.
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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zewrak
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zewrak wrote:
| estudleon wrote: |
Scheneider 4,5?
It's seem to me to be sharp plus!!
Rino. |
So is the 3.5
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orly_andico
Joined: 02 Jul 2008
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orly_andico wrote:
i screwed up my schneider 4.5 (dropped the front element and now it has an edge chip) 
that's what i get for disassembling stuff... i blackened the chip so it should have no effect on performance...
but this is a 1951 uncoated lens... pretty low contrast. haven't used it much because it's exakta mount and i don't have the right adapter.
question: are the retina-schneider lenses "just as good" as the other schneiders? i see retina-schneider's going for low prices... of course the registration distance is short as well.. need to grind it down or something. |
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dave_t
Joined: 16 Sep 2008
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dave_t wrote:
I just got another offer for a lens that I have never heard of and can't find any information on:
pancolar 135/2,8
I can't find it anywhere, to even confirm that it exists. Price is about $40, anybody have any idea what this is? |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
This lens is not available, you have same false information.Perhaps Prakticar or Pentacon 135mm f2.8
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orly_andico
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orly_andico wrote:
probably pentacon... not a bad lens as far as i know.. made by Meyer instead of CZ Jena. so "lower class" but optically i think it's just as good. Better bokeh so they say... |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008
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estudleon wrote:
[quote="orly_andico"]i screwed up my schneider 4.5 (dropped the front element and now it has an edge chip)
that's what i get for disassembling stuff... i blackened the chip so it should have no effect on performance...
but this is a 1951 uncoated lens... pretty low contrast. haven't used it much because it's exakta mount and i don't have the right adapter.
question: are the retina-schneider lenses "just as good" as the other schneiders? i see retina-schneider's going for low prices... of course the registration distance is short as well.. need to grind it down or something.[/quote]
I had schenider lens m42 and retina schneider in voigtlander body. They seemed to be similar in quality. Not all the retina's had the same shame of the m42 (for example in m42 the 135 had two rear elements and in retina's only one).
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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estudleon
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
[quote="orly_andico"]i screwed up my schneider 4.5 (dropped the front element and now it has an edge chip)
that's what i get for disassembling stuff... i blackened the chip so it should have no effect on performance...
but this is a 1951 uncoated lens... pretty low contrast. haven't used it much because it's exakta mount and i don't have the right adapter.
question: are the retina-schneider lenses "just as good" as the other schneiders? i see retina-schneider's going for low prices... of course the registration distance is short as well.. need to grind it down or something.[/quote]
I had schenider lens m42 and retina schneider in voigtlander body. They seemed to be similar in quality. Not all the retina's had the same shame of the m42 (for example in m42 the 135 had two rear elements and in retina's only one).
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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LucisPictor
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LucisPictor wrote:
A Pentacon 2.8/135 or a Jupiter-37 3.5/135 will be the cheap ones of the goos alternatives.
I like the Tair-11 2.8/133(135) better, but it's more expensive, as is the Takumar.
Also a great lens is the CZJ Sonnar 4/135.
My favs are the Nikkor 3.5/135, the Oly Zuiko 3.5/135 and the Tamron 2.5/135, but those are not M42 lenses.
And I just have received a Schneider-Kreuznach Rollei Tele-Xenar 3.5/135 which seems to veeeeery pleasant! (But also not M42.)
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