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Abbazz
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 Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: 135/4 Leitz Elmar on Pentax K10D |
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Abbazz wrote:
Yesterday, I mounted an old Leitz Elmar 135mm telephoto on my "ultimate weapon" contraption. The 135/4 Elmar lens is one of the few Leitz lenses that were specially designed to be used with the Visoflex reflex viewer attachment. As the Visoflex was inserted between the camera body and the lens, it was therefore increasing the registration of the camera, so the lenses designed to be used with the Visoflex had to have a shorter optical draw than the normal M mount lenses. In order to be compatible with the Visoflex, these special Elmar lenses had a removable optical unit, which was put on a special helicoid (or bellows) when used with the Visoflex.
I unscrewed the optical unit of my Elmar and put it on my K10d with the help of my universal bellows adapter. The results are quite good, sharp and with surprisingly high contrast and flare resistance for a lens of this age (pictures only resized, no sharpening):
100% crop of preceding picture (wide open at f/4):
Cheers!
Abbazz
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
If you just heard a muted sound...
... that was my jaw dropping on the floor!!
What detail.... and what bokeh!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm stunned.
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Abbazz
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Abbazz wrote:
Yes, Orio, I find the bokeh nice too. Too bad the Elmar 65/3.5 is so expensive, but I will try to get the 90/4.
Cheers!
Abbazz
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Laurence
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Laurence wrote:
Incredible, really incredible.  Especially in light of the lens being configured for the short draw that you mentioned. This is "right up there" with the best I've seen on here.
Another arrow in the quiver!
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patrickh
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patrickh wrote:
Heavens to Betsy - that is incredible. Makes me want to go out and start over.
patrickh
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Katastrofo
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Katastrofo wrote:
Marvelous shots, Sébastien! Of course your skill potentiates these shots,
but the equipment is nice, too! 
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poilu
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poilu wrote:
HeHe Leitz is Leica 
One day maybe, I will buy one of those
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F16SUNSHINE
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
What the.........?
It's almost not fair. Those are just simple delicious. The bokeh is unreal and such clean detail as well. Very nice thankyou for sharing these. |
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Abbazz
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Abbazz wrote:
Thanks for the kind words. This lens surprises me, as it doesn't have a very good reputation among the Leica users. Here are a few more pictures taken against the light this afternoon at Tungku Beach (f/6.3, no sharpening):
Cheers!
Abbazz
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poilu
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poilu wrote:
| Sébastien wrote: |
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superbe!
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Wow! This is the LENS!
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Abbazz
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Abbazz wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| Wow! This is the LENS! |
Attila, this lens produces nice results, but don't forget that it is single coated, has no automatic or preset diaphragm and no focusing helicoid, so it has to be used on a bellows. As I don't have a lens hood that fits, I use my left hand to protect the lens from the sun. It's usable, even handheld -- I kinda like focusing with a bellows, it reminds me of using a folding camera -- but it's definitely not a lens for everyday use.
Cheers!
Abbazz
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Nelson
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Nelson wrote:
I like your photographs
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Richard_D
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Richard_D wrote:
The hassle of using it has got to be worth it with those results!
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Laurence
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Laurence wrote:
Simply wonderful "into the sun" shots! Not bad at ALL for one of those "inferior single-coated lenses".... 
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Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
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Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Bob wrote:
Wow
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Abbazz
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Abbazz wrote:
Here is a picture of the 135/4 Elmar mounted on the universal bellows, taken with another Leica M lens, the 90/4 collapsible Elmar:
Cheers!
Abbazz
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LucisPictor wrote:
That's pretty amazing, not just the results, but also the fact that you are able to use this lens at your DSLR! Wow!
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