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Yashica ML100/3.5 macro vs CZ Makro-Planar 100/2 ZF @ 1:2
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:46 pm    Post subject: Yashica ML100/3.5 macro vs CZ Makro-Planar 100/2 ZF @ 1:2 Reply with quote

Do not take seriously these comparison shots, the good comparison is
extremely difficult and time consuming as you know. (just an excuse Very Happy)

By using EOS_5D on the tripod, the both lenses required adapters.
No USM was applied in these shots, but used Auto-balance for exposures
of RAW developer Capture One 4.7 (latest version).

FLowers and berries are artificial ones, but leaf is real (i think Very Happy).

ML100 @ f3.5 @ 44cm 1:2

MP100 @ f3.5 1:2


ML100 @ f3.5 1:2

MP100 @ f3.5 1:2


ML100 @ f3.5 1:2

MP100 @ f3.5 1:2


I could not see any difference easily except FoV is wider for Makro-Planar despite
this lens seems to have deeper DoF than ML 100/3.5 macro lens. Interesting too.

So once again, grab Yashica ML100/3.5 macro if you can.
Much bigger photos are available here:

http://www.pbase.com/kkawakami/image/110866348/original
http://www.pbase.com/kkawakami/image/110866351/original
These pages have link to Yashica ML100/3.5 macro shots.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent results Koji, I guess you discovered some hidden gem!

Great that I followed your advice and jumped when I saw that one here!! Arigato Domo!


PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice samples ! Many thanks! Another evidence how Yashica lenses can be good!


PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice test Koji
how do you improve your focus on the 5D, any new magnifier or split screen ?


PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys.

Poilu, I am still using Ee-S screen and DIY DK-17M magnifier for my 5D. That's all.

I have not much used this Yashica lens so far, but it is very nice indeed.
It was almost comparable to C/Y Sonnar 100/3.5 I thought, now MP100/2!!
I am not sure I should be grad or not. Very Happy


PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have the Yashica macro but it looks like a terrific lens.

As for the Sonnar 3.5/100, my two copies are both significantly sharper than my Makro-Planar 100 - which however has other qualities, the bokeh, the 3D...


PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:25 pm    Post subject: some macro shots Reply with quote

Not meant to hijack Koji's thread, just to add!

Got that lens today and brought it into action asap, examples using my standard subjects, all shot handheld using built in flash at f3.5 (fully open). Full size images scaled down, nothing else done to them. Hercules' eye was shot fully extended 1:2

LCA is very low, not as low as the Apo-Lanthar:






















excellent sharp lens, but somewhat prone to flare, as may be seen from the 2nd shot outside:

flash shot inside:


sun outside:


100% Detail of the former shot:



Bokeh - creamy, creamy...



PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Hercules a male? I ask because it sounds strange, it has some light brown hints in the fur and usually 3-coloured cats are all female...


PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny, but yes he is (was) male. Quite a biggy at 13 kilos and extremely strong, but at the same time fears anything and anyone. Mother was a very little all white cat and the father a wild brown/black bobcat (!!). My wife brought him from the USA. He has three colors, white/brown/black.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great, Klaus.

That ML macro lens has surprisingly little CA, which I did not check.

In Japan, cats with three colours (white, black, and brown) are called "mike".
They are quite common, so there must be lots of male too. Very Happy

"mike" literally means "three hair" in english, we do not care much about
plural things in grammar of our language. It tries to mean "three coloured
hair".

Oh, "mike" pronounces "me-keh" just like "bo-keh". We normally do not
use "h" in roman-writing somehow. May name pronounces "koh-ji"
actually, but writes "koji" even though "o" in "koji" is pronounced longer.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koji wrote:
Great, Klaus.

That ML macro lens has surprisingly little CA, which I did not check.

In Japan, cats with three colours (white, black, and brown) are called "mike".
They are quite common, so there must be lots of male too. Very Happy

"mike" literally means "three hair" in english, we do not care much about
plural things in grammar of our language. It tries to mean "three coloured
hair".


So I have to try calling him "Mike", maybe he follows more then... Very Happy

I just took out the Yashica Macro 2.8/60mm which I have since quite some time and will also give it a try. Do you have that too?


PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I do not have 2,8/60mm macro from Yashica.

This Yashinon macro 60/2.8 is a great achievement, so is descendant
Yashica AF macro 2.8/60, which is very rare unfortunately. This AF
macro 60/2.8 is better than Y/C macro 60mm every one says in japan(?)

I have Yashica ML 55/2.8 and 55/4 macros, which are not too inferior to
Y/C macro 2.8/60, though I do not have this Y/C 60mm macro lens.


PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the 2.8/60mm is a good lens but not as spectatcular as teh 3.5/100mm I would say. these are a few quick shots, but maybe that lens deserves better!

TCA fully open:


test shots, all fully open:
















PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: got a second one, now have one for sale... Reply with quote

Stumbled across that famous Yashica ML100/3.5 macro lens today on camera show and grabbed it - now I have two, so if you want one, here comes your chance to have Zeiss Makro-Planar 100mm perfomance at a fraction of the price!!!


PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On fleabay our dear very expensive seller goKevin seems to have cornered them - not really that much cheaper than the makro planar.


patrickh


PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, for around $700-800 a real "bargain"!!!
har, har... Very Happy