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donTTouchonlywatch
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 Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject: Which wide angle lens with Canon 5d? |
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donTTouchonlywatch wrote:
May you give me advice about compatibility?
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cilinderman
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cilinderman wrote:
Hi 
In my 5D I tend to use the Distagon 28/2.8 but mirror hits at infinity. However, I can focus just a little bit before infinity and using a little aperture - f5,6 or f8 - I reach it with no problem. Quality and colour is excellent from 2.8.
My other option is Olympus 21/3.5, even if I have a bad "grinded for me" adapter I get good results from f8 and can reach infinity without trouble (if you have a good adapter). The lens have a bit of CA in some extreme situation and a very particular flare  . It's one of the cheapest/quality/compact wide angle's you can find.
Hope to be useful
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visualopsins
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visualopsins wrote:
any M42 aka US (universal screwmount) aka Pentax Screwmount
search ebaY for "EOS adapter" -- any without glass that indicate "infinity focus" -- any of those lenses
edit (Thanks hk300! see below):
Caveat -- the 5D mirror is obstructed by some M42 lenses; some obstruct the mirror only near or at infinity focus.
There's a list "5D Mark II lens compatibility chart" at http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=15761
Note the 5D mirror clears some of those; the 5D Mark II mirror apparently swings a slightly smaller diameter arc.
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M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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donTTouchonlywatch
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donTTouchonlywatch wrote:
Thank's a lot |
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hk300
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hk300 wrote:
| siriusdogstar wrote: |
any M42 aka US (universal screwmount) aka Pentax Screwmount
search ebaY for "EOS adapter" -- any without glass that indicate "infinity focus" -- any of those lenses |
note that some M42 lenses will hit the mirror.
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mflex-on
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mflex-on wrote:
Olympus wides are good idea. The 2.8/24 works very well on EOS 5D |
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donTTouchonlywatch
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donTTouchonlywatch wrote:
| mflex-on wrote: |
| Olympus wides are good idea. The 2.8/24 works very well on EOS 5D |
Thank's MFLEX |
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Martin
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: Which wide angle lens with Canon 5d? |
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Martin wrote:
| donTTouchonlywatch wrote: |
May you give me advice about compatibility?
Thank's |
For the 5D MK I you find my compatibility chart here
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donTTouchonlywatch
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donTTouchonlywatch wrote:
Thank's everybody |
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Orio
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| Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
How wide you need?
There's a big difference between a 28mm wide and a 20mm wide.
If you need really wide then I would suggest a Flektogon or Nikkor 20mm
Both of them don't require any mirror shaving.
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yalcinaydin
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yalcinaydin wrote:
For wide, I really like the Olympus 3.5/28 much, it is perfect.
For ultra-wide I used a Prakticar bayonet (PB) CZJ Flek 2.8/20 after some modification I liked the results after stoppping down to f:5.5, wide open soft and exhibits more CA. But for ultra wide I would opt for the Olympus Olympus 3.5/21.
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KhanX
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KhanX wrote:
Agree with Orio, Zeiss Distagon 20mm, 21mm is ok but Zeiss 18mm is not suitable for full frame.
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Tele : Canon FD 300mm f2.8 s.s.c. fluorite, Mamiya 645 500mm f5.6, Pentacon 500mm f5.6, Sigma APO 300mm f4 macro, Nikkor Reflex C 500mm f8, Canon FD 200mm f2.8 s.s.c., Rubinar 300mm f4.5 mirror
Macro : Vivitar Series 1 90mm f2.8, Vivitar VMC 100mm f2.8 Macro, Panagor PMC 90mm f2.8, Edicar 90mm f2.8 Macro, Nikon Micro 55mm f3.5, Takumar 50mm f4 Macro, Nikon Non AI 55mm f3.5 Micro, SMC Takumar 100mm f4 macro, Canon FD 100mm f4 Macro, Canon FD 200mm f4 Macro, Volna-9 50mm f2.8
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Normal : Canon 50mm f0.95, Schneider 50mm f0.95, Hexanon 57mm f1.2, Hexanon 40mm f1.8, Taylor hobson 50mm f1.8, Cooke Kinetal 50mm f1.8, Canon EF 28mm f2.8, Leica 14-50mm f2.8-3.5 Mega O.I.S., Carl Zeiss Contax Distagon 18mm f4, Carl Zeiss Contax Planar T* 50mm f1.4, Carl Zeiss Contax 35mm f1.4, Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm f3.5-5.6 Macro, Yashica 35mm f2.8, Helios 44-2/58, Helios 85mm f1.5, Pentax SMC-M 50mm f1.4, Pentax SMC-F 28mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 28mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 50mm f1.7, Minolta MC PF Rokkor 50mm f1.4, Porst 28mm f2.8, Meyer - Optik Lydith 30mm f3.5, Nikon AIS 50mm f1.2, Tamron SP 28mm f2.8 adaptall, Pentax SMC Takumar 85mm f1.8, Vivitar Series 1 55mm f1.2, Canon FD 85mm f1.2L, Canon FD 55mm f1.2L, Angenieux 135mm f3.5, Cooke Kinetal 75mm f2.6, Steinheil 85mm f2.8, Leica M 50mm f2, Zeiss flextogon 35mm f2.4, Pancolar 50mm f1.8, Schneider Xenar 85mm f4
Wide : Leica Elmerit M 28mm f2.8 asph, Zeiss Contax 21mm f2.8, Zeiss Flextogon 20mm f2.8, Exakta 24mm f2.8 macro, Tokina 17mm f4 |
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Carlsson
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| Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Carlsson wrote:
Yes that's true, there is a big difference.
Perhaps this helps, a small test I did last year to find the aperture sweet spot for some lenses:
15mm
18mm
28mm
50mm
85mm
135mm
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| Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
| KhanX wrote: |
| Agree with Orio, Zeiss Distagon 20mm, 21mm is ok but Zeiss 18mm is not suitable for full frame. |
Why is the Zeiss 18 not suitable for Full Frame ? I am just wondering...
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Orio
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| Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
| trifox wrote: |
| KhanX wrote: |
| Agree with Orio, Zeiss Distagon 20mm, 21mm is ok but Zeiss 18mm is not suitable for full frame. |
Why is the Zeiss 18 not suitable for Full Frame ? I am just wondering...
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Because you are the only lucky guy in the world to have a 5DII whose mirror is cleared by the Distagon 18. The rest of us humans get a mirror conflict. 
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Orio wrote:
One thing our friend needs to know, my suggestions were on the relatively affordable side (200 Eur approx. for a Flektogon 20/4, something less for a Nikkor 3.5/20), while the other suggestions of a Distagon 21, 18, or 15, are all on the super expensive side (Distagon 18 around 600 Eur, Distagon 21 more than 1000 Eur, Distagon 15 around 2000 Eur)
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