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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
kievuser wrote:
Two Nikon zooms, Ai 35-70mm F3.5 S/N 774014, and Ais 80-200/4 s/n 251798. I wonder how this Nikon 80-200/4 compares to Canon FD 80-200/4 L for about the same price when new?


Two very good lenses there.
I am not sure of the differences between the Nikkor and the Canon, but I would guess that they are very close in actual performance.
Enjoy
Tom


PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


first shot (wide open)



a7+ makro rings (~8mm)+ Юпитер-8 "П" (КМЗ, №5414816)


PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oldhand wrote:
kievuser wrote:
Two Nikon zooms, Ai 35-70mm F3.5 S/N 774014, and Ais 80-200/4 s/n 251798. I wonder how this Nikon 80-200/4 compares to Canon FD 80-200/4 L for about the same price when new?


Two very good lenses there.
I am not sure of the differences between the Nikkor and the Canon, but I would guess that they are very close in actual performance.
Enjoy
Tom


On 24MP FF, I have checked the Ai 4.5/80-200mm (second, newer computation) as well as the later 4/70-210mm (both in its MF and AF variant), but not the AiS 4/80-200mm.

The Canon nFD 4/80-200mm, due to its excellent color correction, gives crisper and clearer images than the both Nikkors I tested. In addition, the Nikkor 4.5/80-200mm has more aberration problems @ 200mm f4.5 than the Canon L.

Stephan


PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevemark wrote:
Oldhand wrote:
kievuser wrote:
Two Nikon zooms, Ai 35-70mm F3.5 S/N 774014, and Ais 80-200/4 s/n 251798. I wonder how this Nikon 80-200/4 compares to Canon FD 80-200/4 L for about the same price when new?


Two very good lenses there.
I am not sure of the differences between the Nikkor and the Canon, but I would guess that they are very close in actual performance.
Enjoy
Tom


On 24MP FF, I have checked the Ai 4.5/80-200mm (second, newer computation) as well as the later 4/70-210mm (both in its MF and AF variant), but not the AiS 4/80-200mm.

The Canon nFD 4/80-200mm, due to its excellent color correction, gives crisper and clearer images than the both Nikkors I tested. In addition, the Nikkor 4.5/80-200mm has more aberration problems @ 200mm f4.5 than the Canon L.

Stephan


Tom and Stephan, Thanks for your reply.I guess they would perform about the same.But Stephan's answer is a surprise. My impression is that Nikon optics are always crisper and clearer. But I have never owned a Canon FD L series lens.Some are still quite expensive.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
kievuser wrote:
Stephan's answer is a surprise. My impression is that Nikon optics are always crisper and clearer. But I have never owned a Canon FD L series lens.Some are still quite expensive.


Well, you gotta keep in mind that the Nikon 80-200mm f/4.5 design was an old one when the Canon was new. Although the Nikon zoom has always been regarded highly (and I can see why, I own one), the AIs 80-200mm f/4 has been regarded as being notably superior to the older design. So this outcome doesn't really surprise me. And as good as the AIs 80-200 is, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Canon outperformed it. The Canon 80-200mm f/4 L is regarded as one of the best zooms, if not the best, in that focal range with a max f/4 aperture.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
cooltouch wrote:
kievuser wrote:
Stephan's answer is a surprise. My impression is that Nikon optics are always crisper and clearer. But I have never owned a Canon FD L series lens.Some are still quite expensive.


Well, you gotta keep in mind that the Nikon 80-200mm f/4.5 design was an old one when the Canon was new. Although the Nikon zoom has always been regarded highly (and I can see why, I own one), the AIs 80-200mm f/4 has been regarded as being notably superior to the older design. So this outcome doesn't really surprise me. And as good as the AIs 80-200 is, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Canon outperformed it. The Canon 80-200mm f/4 L is regarded as one of the best zooms, if not the best, in that focal range with a max f/4 aperture.


So I was lucky as the seller had both 80-200/4.5 and 80-200/4 with the F4.5 version about 100 yuan RMB cheaper. I tried both lenses on a camera and "felt" the F4 one's image slightly clearer. I didn't know the aiS 80-200/4 was a better lens as I almost bought the F4.5 one.
The price for the Nikon ais 80-200/4 and Canon FD 80-200 L was about the same in Japanese yan, but in us dollars, the Nikon was $ 100 US dollars more expensive in 1988 according to ROTO CELL list($459.95 vs $559.95). The aiS 80-200/4 was sold for 7600 yuan RMB to professionals in early 1990 in Beijing, now a used one only cost less than 1/10th. IIRC, my monthly salary was only 3-400 yuan then.


PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


A new member of the ERA-family....


PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Klaus---the elegance (simplicity) of this lens is striking! I know nothing about it--can you tell us a little about its history or any other pertinent facts. It sure looks to be a clean version too. jt


PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Focusthrow wrote:
Klaus---the elegance (simplicity) of this lens is striking! I know nothing about it--can you tell us a little about its history or any other pertinent facts. It sure looks to be a clean version too. jt


It is an old russian lens used for early computer chip making. High resolution, double gauss design.
Here shots with it: http://forum.mflenses.com/era-15-f4-5-125mm-takes-a-late-walk-t78042.html


PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
An extremely rare Chinese micro reduction lens 120/4 made in early 1970's. I think it is similar to those Ultra Micro Nikkor lenses for the same applications.

I bought it many years ago, but Dr. Klaus's Russian ERA-15 125/4.5 reminded me of it.


PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The uncommon tokina made 100mm f2.8 in vivitar guise with a smart black leather case.



PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
kievuser wrote:
An extremely rare Chinese micro reduction lens 120/4 made in early 1970's. I think it is similar to those Ultra Micro Nikkor lenses for the same applications.

I bought it many years ago, but Dr. Klaus's Russian ERA-15 125/4.5 reminded me of it.


Here is an article about these special industrial lenses made by Nikon. I find them fascinating.

http://www.doc88.com/p-792387305883.html


PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Russian projection lens I never have seen before: GOST 50mm 1.2.

Anyone known with this one?


PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Minolfan wrote:
Russian projection lens I never have seen before: GOST 50mm 1.2.

Anyone known with this one?


Isn't that identical (or very similar) to this one: http://allphotolenses.com/lenses/item/c_1423.html


PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Just picked up this somewhat unusual 105mm f2.8 lens. It is only my second Vernon Edonar lens.

Was fortunate auction closed early in the day on day of SuperBowl:

Click here to see on Ebay then click see original listing

The most recent prior auction for this lens I could locate closed about two years ago, here:

Click here to see on Ebay then click see original listing

That lens sold for rather more than I paid because, I think, the early morning timing of my auction stifled bidding.

This 105mm f2.8 Edonar, like many others, has the unusual, but characteristic, "triple band" focus grip.

I am delighted to have won this lens. I bid over US$50 and ended up paying much less than my bid.


PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Isn't that identical to the Kyoei Acall 105mm?


PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kds315* wrote:
Isn't that identical to the Kyoei Acall 105mm?


Hi Klaus

I would answer "no", but solely because I simply am not that fortunate. There is no other reason.

Laugh 1

Here is the Kyoei Acall 105mm f2.8 I found:

http://sunrisephotohk.blog126.fc2.com/blog-entry-24868.html

You can blow that photo up if you click the photo.

Klaus, if I just bought a US$1300 lens for circa US$25, I will be throwing my own party today, it will have no relationship whatsoever to the SuperBowl, and you are invited!!

Happy Dog

Please tell me I'm wrong. Please. Please tell me I just hit the jackpot!!

Lenses are fun and in the above I'm just having a bit of fun. Now seriously:

Vernon, back in the day, sourced lenses from a variety of manufacturers. I honestly do not know what company made the 105mm f2.8 for Vernon. It might have been Tamron. The subject lens, if it is in good shape, should be a decent performer. And it is somewhat rare.


PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Congrats for your $1300 lens









in HKD.


PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
calvin83 wrote:
Congrats for your $1300 lens









in HKD.


Laugh 1 Laugh 1

Friends

Calvin83 you are a hoot!! Laughing Laughing

But hey, even in HK$ that would still be over $150! I'll take it (but no party). Wink


PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Visionar 1.9/183mm



PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
guardian wrote:
kds315* wrote:
Isn't that identical to the Kyoei Acall 105mm?


Hi Klaus

I would answer "no", but solely because I simply am not that fortunate. There is no other reason.

Laugh 1

Here is the Kyoei Acall 105mm f2.8 I found:

http://sunrisephotohk.blog126.fc2.com/blog-entry-24868.html

You can blow that photo up if you click the photo.

Klaus, if I just bought a US$1300 lens for circa US$25, I will be throwing my own party today, it will have no relationship whatsoever to the SuperBowl, and you are invited!!

Happy Dog

Please tell me I'm wrong. Please. Please tell me I just hit the jackpot!!

Lenses are fun and in the above I'm just having a bit of fun. Now seriously:

Vernon, back in the day, sourced lenses from a variety of manufacturers. I honestly do not know what company made the 105mm f2.8 for Vernon. It might have been Tamron. The subject lens, if it is in good shape, should be a decent performer. And it is somewhat rare.


Not that one with Leica thread mount, but this one Luis wrote about, which was sold under many brand names, including Petri: http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-kyoei-105mm-f-3-5-t39488.html a $50 lens or thereabouts... Wink


PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It surely is possible, Klaus. I do not have the lens yet. When it arrives I will compare.

Vernon sourcing is certainly fodder for discussion since their Edonar lenses are relatively rare. Edonar 105mm f2.8 lenses do not appear often on the market. The slower Edonar 105mm f3.5 lenses are seen somewhat more frequently.


PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's not a Kyoei Acall, I have the Kyoei 105 and 135mms and they are different.

I also had a 135mm that looks exactly like guardian's lens, with the three sections of knurling, it was rubbish so I took the glass out and used the helicoid to remount a projection lens.

With these 1960s Japanese low-end lenses, it's often nigh-on impossible to tell who made them.

Vernon Edonars are often Tamrons, but they also sold lenses from other makers.


PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Canon FD 2.5/135
7artisans 1.8/25 (Fuji X)
Canon FD 1.8/85

plus Novoflex-Adapter FD-NEX and a Canon F-1


PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A FUJINON EFC 1:5.6/108 mini lab printer lens in LN condition. Laugh 1 It has 8 aperture blades and adjustable to F11.Here is the lens, the zebra focusing tube is not included.



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