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DanielT74
Joined: 01 Apr 2011 Posts: 204
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:04 pm Post subject: What is this lens - Titan 135mm f1.8 M42? |
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DanielT74 wrote:
I've come across this monster and was wondering if anyone knew who made it and what sort of quality one can expect?
It doesn't look like one of the Spiratone, Raynox Polaris or Sigmatel, so I am lost as to the origin. Comes with 18 aperture blades apparently!
Any help will be appreciated!!!
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Based on the style it was made by the same manufacturer who made the Vivitar 135mm f/1.5 Professional (look at the tripod mount which is also completely the same):
http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Vivitar_Professional_135mm_f/1.5 _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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DanielT74
Joined: 01 Apr 2011 Posts: 204
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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DanielT74 wrote:
Thanks, Peter!
Any other "educated guesses"? |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
early sigma ? _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
It's clearly japanese.
I think it's made by Tokina.
Here's my Tokina 200/3.5 (Soligor rebranded) for comparision:
The rifles on the metallic ears for the aperture which can't be seen on this pic are looking identical to the rifles of the aperture ring of the Titan lens.
Some more pics of other versions which could be interesting: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=20261&view=previous
(Look at the tripod mount!)
Tokina made also a loth lenses for rebranding and also a lot lenses with T-Mount
Bye the way I just recognized that many Sigma, Konica and some old Minolta prime lenses are also looking also very very very similar to my Tokina. Did Tokina and Sigma copy this style to look like a "real Konica" lens? Or was there maybe an Japanese component supplier who made parts for all them? _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Perhaps Tokina made lenses to Sigma also, because my Spiratone branded 135mm f1.8 lens look like this. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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DanielT74
Joined: 01 Apr 2011 Posts: 204
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:13 am Post subject: |
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DanielT74 wrote:
Yes, the Tokina above looks very similar!
The built is also a bit similar to some Spiratones but not the overall construction and shape:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/userreviews/spiratone-135mm-f1-8-ys.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ebanator/5770329846/
Looks more like the Soligor at the bottom of this page:
http://forum.mflenses.com/finally-got-me-an-135mm-f1-8-t33823,start,15,highlight,135mm.html
But the one I am looking at seems bigger. The aperture ring is also further out than the focusing ring which I've only seen on rangefinder glass... |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:17 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
These lenses tend to be credited to Sigma, but I bilieve there were 3 manufactorers making the 135 1.8. Sigma, Mitake, and Tokina. _________________
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
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DanielT74
Joined: 01 Apr 2011 Posts: 204
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:58 am Post subject: |
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DanielT74 wrote:
So the most likely candidate seems to be Tokina, not a company renowned for making fast lenses.
I am doubtful though - does anybody know of their lens made with the aperture ring in the front?
In any case I should have it in a few days and can do some tests to see what it can do! |
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casualcollector
Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 749 Location: Spaced out on Florida's Space Coast
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
Aperture rings st the front are common on pre-set lenses like this 135. As for manufacturer, my hunch is Sigma as the focus direction is opposite of standard Tokina practice. Other suspects would be Nittoh, Tomioka or a lesser known maker like Norita. _________________ In Search Of "R" Serial Soligors
Found: 135/2.8 #R407660, 200/4 #R405526, 300/5.5 #R411127 |
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DanielT74
Joined: 01 Apr 2011 Posts: 204
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:29 am Post subject: Titan 135/1.8 sample images |
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DanielT74 wrote:
I've shot a few images with the Titan. Not a lot because you have to be a titan to use it - it's so massive and heavy. But it is quite a nice lens if one manages to nail the focus! Here's a few images to give you a taste of what it can do - if you own another 135/1.8 it would be interesting to see how similar/different they are:
Night pic - DoF at f1.8 and ISO1600 (on NEX_5N):
Close-up and wide open portrait:
Slightly stopped down:
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Ghost2501
Joined: 26 Apr 2012 Posts: 102 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Ghost2501 wrote:
Hey, nice results
What is the weight of that lense ? |
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DanielT74
Joined: 01 Apr 2011 Posts: 204
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:16 am Post subject: |
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DanielT74 wrote:
Oh, a mere 1365g (that's without the tripod mount and the camera, in case you were wondering). |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:07 am Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Today I hold a zoom lens in my hands on a flea market which looked very similar. It was labeled with Raynox Polaris . _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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DanielT74
Joined: 01 Apr 2011 Posts: 204
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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DanielT74 wrote:
Yes, there was a 135/1.8 made under that label but it looks rather different to this one. The Raynox seems much more stout for instance:
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Smoli4
Joined: 01 Jul 2011 Posts: 606 Location: Haifa, Israel
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Titan 135/1.8 sample images |
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Smoli4 wrote:
DanielT74 wrote: |
I've shot a few images with the Titan. Not a lot because you have to be a titan to use it |
lol but the results are looking quite good! now you made me think my smc takumar with its f2.5 is not so badass after all |
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Phalbert
Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 383 Location: Namibia
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Phalbert wrote:
Hi Daniel. This an old post but let's try. I've been sending PMs, but looks like they don't reach you. Do you still have this lens, and would you sell it ? Please PM me. Thanks a lot ! _________________ 🙋 My wishlist: Titan or Idaho 135/1,8 Nikon Df Nikkor 105/1,8 35/1,4 85/1,4
My dream lenses: Zuiko 180/2 Prototype Zuiko 85/1,4
Zeiss CY: 55/1,2 85/1,2
Astro Berlin 250/2 Canon EF 50/1,0 85/1,2
Nikkor 105/1,4 28/1,4
My stolen stuff: Zuiko 24/2 #106874; Zuiko 35-80/2,8 #102180; Zuiko 35/2 #119168; Zuiko 90/2 macro #102858; Zuiko x1,4 converter #102019; Tamron 17/3,5 #400567; Tamron 400/4 #80407; Soligor 135/2 #17506600 Sigma 28/1,8 #1001124 |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2536
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
Phalbert wrote: |
Hi Daniel. This an old post but let's try. I've been sending PMs, but looks like they don't reach you. Do you still have this lens, and would you sell it ? Please PM me. Thanks a lot ! |
Don't think so. Maybe this is him. https://www.instagram.com/danielt74/ There is also a member by that name on pentaxforums. Hasn't logged in since 2015. _________________ pentaxian |
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kymarto
Joined: 30 Nov 2016 Posts: 409 Location: Portland, OR and Milan, Italy
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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kymarto wrote:
FWIW here are two images shot with the Spiratone 135mm f1.8. Quality is decent by not terribly sharp
_________________ Vintage lens aficionado |
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Phalbert
Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 383 Location: Namibia
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Phalbert wrote:
Hi Kymarto, were these shot wide open ?? I find them very good... _________________ 🙋 My wishlist: Titan or Idaho 135/1,8 Nikon Df Nikkor 105/1,8 35/1,4 85/1,4
My dream lenses: Zuiko 180/2 Prototype Zuiko 85/1,4
Zeiss CY: 55/1,2 85/1,2
Astro Berlin 250/2 Canon EF 50/1,0 85/1,2
Nikkor 105/1,4 28/1,4
My stolen stuff: Zuiko 24/2 #106874; Zuiko 35-80/2,8 #102180; Zuiko 35/2 #119168; Zuiko 90/2 macro #102858; Zuiko x1,4 converter #102019; Tamron 17/3,5 #400567; Tamron 400/4 #80407; Soligor 135/2 #17506600 Sigma 28/1,8 #1001124 |
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Phalbert
Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 383 Location: Namibia
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Phalbert wrote:
[quote="D1N0"][quote="Phalbert"]Hi Daniel. This an old post but let's try. I've been sending PMs, but looks like they don't reach you. Do you still have this lens, and would you sell it ? Please PM me. Thanks a lot ![/quote]
Don't think so. Maybe this is him. https://www.instagram.com/danielt74/ There is also a member by that name on pentaxforums. Hasn't logged in since 2015.[/quote]
Thanks a lot. _________________ 🙋 My wishlist: Titan or Idaho 135/1,8 Nikon Df Nikkor 105/1,8 35/1,4 85/1,4
My dream lenses: Zuiko 180/2 Prototype Zuiko 85/1,4
Zeiss CY: 55/1,2 85/1,2
Astro Berlin 250/2 Canon EF 50/1,0 85/1,2
Nikkor 105/1,4 28/1,4
My stolen stuff: Zuiko 24/2 #106874; Zuiko 35-80/2,8 #102180; Zuiko 35/2 #119168; Zuiko 90/2 macro #102858; Zuiko x1,4 converter #102019; Tamron 17/3,5 #400567; Tamron 400/4 #80407; Soligor 135/2 #17506600 Sigma 28/1,8 #1001124 |
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kymarto
Joined: 30 Nov 2016 Posts: 409 Location: Portland, OR and Milan, Italy
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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kymarto wrote:
Phalbert wrote: |
Hi Kymarto, were these shot wide open ?? I find them very good... |
They are wide open. Viewing close the lens never gets really sharp, but spherical aberration is well corrected and micro contrast is good. _________________ Vintage lens aficionado |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16658 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Toby! Have a similar one (Porst 1.8/135mm), quite decent actually, better than expected... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
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Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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