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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
I would have said Minolta mount. I'd be tempted to undo the whole mount and screw some other sort of adapter/body cap in its place |
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newton
Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Posts: 343 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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newton wrote:
Martin, do you think it is worth it? I am guessing it is a great lens but can't find any sample pics with it here. |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5077 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
I found this about a vivitar 2.8/100 :
http://forum.mflenses.com/anyone-heard-of-vivitar-100-f2-8-non-macro-m42-t35787,highlight,%2Bvivitar+%2B100+%2B2+%2B8.html
and could be the same as this one :
http://forum.mflenses.com/chinonflex-100mm-f-2-8-in-m42-mount-t18348.html
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dimitrygo
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 561
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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dimitrygo wrote:
The first lens mentioned in this thread is indeed similar to the lenses mentioned in these 2 threads. But the second lens mentioned here is different. It is made by Tokina, all others are presumably made by Sun. |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3436 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
A lens with Minolta MC/MD bayonet certainly will not work on a Nikon body.
Different mount and register distance.
Pity that shipping is pricy to Europe. |
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newton
Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Posts: 343 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:50 am Post subject: |
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newton wrote:
Minolfan wrote: |
A lens with Minolta MC/MD bayonet certainly will not work on a Nikon body.
Different mount and register distance.
Pity that shipping is pricy to Europe. |
I just bought a lens from Japan. Now that was pricey. I think to Europe is cheap.
Spoke to a guy here who has been at it for 35 years. He dropped that he by chance has a Vivitar 100 mm f/2.8 that he is now selling. Said it was a very expensive lens back in the day almost $1000 and swears about it's quality.... That should be good news. Yeah, I was being facetious and wistful that the MC/MD would magically become a Nikon. Damn....reality.... . Lol. I am getting more tempted to find a way to use this lens..... |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6943 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:08 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Hardly anything works on a Nikon without corrected optics. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3436 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
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I am getting more tempted to find a way to use this lens..... |
You can mount the lens (and lots of other ones) on Sony Nex or use the lens on film with a nice and cheap Minolta body. |
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eggboy
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 190 Location: Western Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:21 am Post subject: |
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eggboy wrote:
I've had this lens for a while and just popped onto my old Canon 5D...basically to get a few pics out of it before selling it...and I like it better than my Nikkor 105/2.5 Sonnar! Build quality is decent...and it really renders pretty! I only shoot pix of my kid nowadays it seems, but this just seems like a nice portrait lens...perhaps I sell the Nikkor...as it will bring somewhat more than this one...
It has an odd serial number: 40xxxxxx...which doesn't seem to match any of the Vivitar schemes out there. It does look like it's the exact same lens as the original poster in this thread.
Some shots of the lens, and by the lens wide open, below.
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#8 - this shot is odd as it looks like there is massive dust on the sensor...but it's not there on subsequent shots...I wonder if the incoming light just highlighted some internal lens dust that was perfectly projected onto the sensor...?
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_________________ Eugene
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Nikkor S.C 5cm/1.4 Rangefinder with Amadeo S>M Mount
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 5cm/2 Contax RF c. 1937,
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Nikon Z 6II, Panasonic GX8
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6943 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:34 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Pretty amazing quality. I would not be selling a lens like that. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Splendid photos of the lens. Very unique tone. Nice test samples too. _________________ ---------------------------------
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eggboy
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 190 Location: Western Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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eggboy wrote:
Thanks!
Indeed, I don't think I will be selling it.
The pix of the lens were done on top of vintage cherry furniture in dim incandescent light using an old Canon G2 in macro mode. So the colors were pretty much impossible to white balance! _________________ Eugene
Current Fave Lenses:
Nikkor S.C 5cm/1.4 Rangefinder with Amadeo S>M Mount
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 5cm/2 Contax RF c. 1937,
Nikkor-N 28/2 Nikon F mount
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Nikon Z 6II, Panasonic GX8
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Ansco B2 6x9 Box Camera
Bronica S2
Nikon F2
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Fujinonuser
Joined: 06 Jan 2011 Posts: 128 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Fujinonuser wrote:
I have this lens with M42 thread mount. It is not a Tokina lens by design or lens coating. The Tokina (Porst, Pentor, Chinon) 100mm lens has a rear glass element that is close to the tube mount, whereas the rear glass element of the Vivitar is receded within the tube at the infinity position, similar to the Tomioka 100mm lens. The lens coating is a blend of cyan and magenta, whereas the Tokina lens features the well-known blue and golden lens coating. Please note the index marker. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Fujinonuser: what you think it is Tokina is in fact SUN. The receded rear element is clearly Tokina serial 37 Vivitar.
I also have bought the same SUN as bellow: Click here to see on Ebay mine M42 serial # starting with 7 and being
the same SUN lens as CHINONFLEX, PORST, PENTOR on link: http://forum.mflenses.com/chinonflex-100mm-f-2-8-in-m42-mount-t18348.html
It's definitely a great lens, very sharp wide-open. Probably better wide-open then Tomioka which can be seen here: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=49746
SUN
Tokina
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Fujinonuser
Joined: 06 Jan 2011 Posts: 128 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Fujinonuser wrote:
Hello Pancolart and thank you for the clarification. We seem to share the same passion for certain makers and focal lengths
I agree with you that the Chononflex, Porst, Pentor, Sun 100mm lens is a very good lens, and I don't mind to attribute it to Sun, if in fact it is as good as it is. So we can take to the record that the Vivitar serial numbers starting with 40 and 70 refer to Sun as the manufacturer?
We must keep in mind that the omnipresent Tokina brand in early years may be a cloak name for smaller manufacturers operating within the Tokyo metropolitan area, distributing their products through Tokina ("extended work-bench").
Have you had a chance to try out the Tomioka 100mm or how comes that you can say it may be less sharp than the Tokina or Sun? |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Yes, it seems we prefer 3x different 3rd party then one time Nikon .
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So we can take to the record that the Vivitar serial numbers starting with 40 and 70 refer to Sun as the manufacturer? |
Seems so. But numbering system is time related and i doubt it remains the same throughout all Vivitar period.
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Have you had a chance to try out the Tomioka 100mm or how comes that you can say it may be less sharp than the Tokina or Sun? |
No, not Tomioka. I only forward others opinion, sorry: http://forum.mflenses.com/tomioka-100mm-f2-8-t49746,highlight,+tomioka++2++8++100mm.html
I've tried 2x Tokina and definitely nothing special, quite average. SUN, few samples, all superb. _________________ ---------------------------------
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Fujinonuser
Joined: 06 Jan 2011 Posts: 128 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Fujinonuser wrote:
Thank you. I had forgotten that I had posted to that Tomioka thread myself ... |
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matteo
Joined: 20 May 2014 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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matteo wrote:
I'm thinking about buying this Vivitar Auto 100/2.8, which serial number is 4085373 - so I believe this is "better" Sun-made, but it's curious that it has black metal bayonet (instead metalic) and green numbers sign of metering...
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Do you think it's worth 100Euro (about 130$)?
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
matteo wrote: |
I'm thinking about buying this Vivitar Auto 100/2.8, which serial number is 4085373 - so I believe this is "better" Sun-made, but it's curious that it has black metal bayonet (instead metalic) and green numbers sign of metering...
Just look:
Do you think it's worth 100Euro (about 130$)?
(Something is wrong and I can't post images directly to the post, even hyperlinks doesn't work. I can see them in Preview, but after clicking Submit the cannot be loaded - sorry).[/code] |
You can't post images in your first post,it is the forums anti spam feature,and welcome to the forum. Use the img tags for linked images. The price may be a little high, but I do not know the going rate for 100mm lenses on ebay. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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dimitrygo
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 561
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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dimitrygo wrote:
matteo wrote: |
I'm thinking about buying this Vivitar Auto 100/2.8, which serial number is 4085373 - so I believe this is "better" Sun-made, but it's curious that it has black metal bayonet (instead metalic) and green numbers sign of metering...
Do you think it's worth 100Euro (about 130$)? |
Yes, it's Sun made lens. The price is very high, you can find this lens under different names much cheaper. |
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matteo
Joined: 20 May 2014 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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matteo wrote:
Thanks for your reply I'm new to manual lenses, but it's nice to be there - a lot of interesting discussions
It's an offer from my local-auction site - it's so not listed on ebay. It was listed for a quite long time as a "buy now" for a 115Eur (156$) - with shipping, but I offered 100 Eur (137$) with shipping and seller agreed to my offer. I haven't paid him yet, because I'm still confused if it's worth that money
I'm planning to use it with my Samsung NX20 + m42 adapter as a portrait and general tele lens.
Maybe I should wait or search for an other lens?
edit: So I understaned correctly from this topic, that Chinonflex/Porst/Pentor/Sun 100mm/2.8 lenses are the same as this Vivitar? |
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pdccameras
Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 826 Location: Putnam, CT
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 1:34 am Post subject: |
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pdccameras wrote:
Not a bad lens by any means, but 100 Euros sounds high to me. I think I paid under $20 US for my M42 version last year. I believe mine is the same SUN version as the original OP. Here are two pics:
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dimitrygo
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 561
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:29 am Post subject: |
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dimitrygo wrote:
matteo wrote: |
So I understaned correctly from this topic, that Chinonflex/Porst/Pentor/Sun 100mm/2.8 lenses are the same as this Vivitar? |
Some of them for sure. Now when you know what to look for you can quite easily recognize this lens.
If you will be using this lens on Samsung NX you can search for less usable mounts like Konica, Minolta and Canon FD. Often lenses in these mount cost less. |
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casualcollector
Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 747 Location: Spaced out on Florida's Space Coast
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
My version of this lens in Hanimar dress, Canon FL mount.
The style of the focus grip was also characteristic of the Miida branded version. _________________ In Search Of "R" Serial Soligors
Found: 135/2.8 #R407660, 200/4 #R405526, 300/5.5 #R411127 |
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LittleAlex
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 1435 Location: L'vov (Western Ukraine)
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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LittleAlex wrote:
To say the truth, exactly that topic and persuaded me to bay Vivitar 100 mm 2,8 for Nikon, when I had been considering it, and searching the Net for information about. Despising even, that I already have had really a lot of that focus lenses in my possession.
However, unfortunately it was not so chip at all - $64. But.. It was so seducing…
There are the very first samples:
Sony a7s, f/2.8 1/60 s; ISO 1250
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