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connloyalist
Joined: 22 Jul 2020 Posts: 252 Location: the Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:37 pm Post subject: 90 ~ 105mm (ish) macro lenses |
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connloyalist wrote:
With the weather around here turning having turned cold and bleak (seeing the sun between 1 November and 1 April in these parts can be an unusual occurrence), I am considering adding a 100mm -ish macro lens to my collection. At the moment I own a 50mm OM macro, but nothing in the 100mm range.
As far as I know, there are a number of lenses in this category. In no particular order:
Canon FD 100mm 4.0
Pentax SMC-M or SMC-A 100mm 4.0 (I am assuming they are optically identical)
Tamron 52B 90mm 2.5
Tamron 72B 90mm 2.8
Kiron 105mm
Minolta 100mm 4.0
Several Vivitar models
Several Soligor models
Undoubtedly I am missing a few from this list. Ideally I would like to keep the weight below 500 grams. I have read pros and cons of several of these. Canon apparently is front heavy. Tamron 52B has the flat rear element thing which is sometimes a problem? If memory serves one of the Vivitars is highly regarded but I forget which one.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
Regards, C. |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2934 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Most of them are good. My personal choice out of your list would be one of the Tamrons, because they are fast and thus more versatile (you could use them as portrait lens as well).
Two personal favorites of mine are the Tokina AT-X 90mm f/2.5 macro and Minolta AF 100mm f/2.8.
The Minolta 100/4 is also seriously good, but maybe less suitable as a portrait lens. |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2498
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
Vivitar has a Kiron 105, Tokina 90, and Komine 90 The Tokina is the Bokina valued for it's bokeh The Kiron is supposedly the sharpest , although others say the Tamron is sharper. The Tamron's bokeh is almost as good as the Bokina's as well. The Komine is just ok a good lens but not spectacular, but it does do 1:1 like the Kiron/Kino variant. Tokina and Tamron don't without an adapter. _________________ pentaxian |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Of the 100-ish macros you have listed, I own 4 plus another -- the Vivitar 135mm f/2.8 Close Focus (only Vivitar 135 with a 62mm front thread diameter). The ones I own are the Canon nFD 100/4, the Takumar SMCT 100/4, the Tamron 90/2.5, and the Kiron 100/2.8.
Of the five listed above, the "legendary" Kiron is the least sharp, so I don't really recommend it. However, of the five, it's the only one that focuses down to 1:1, so . . .
My personal favorite, and the one that I most often turn to because of the flexibility of the Addaptall-2 mount, is the Tamron. It is a very sharp macro, perhaps the sharpest of the lot. It also has the advantage of often being very reasonably priced on the used market.
If I could find a Bokina at a decent price, I wouldn't hesitate to add it to my collection. _________________ Michael
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7787 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I have two macros in the 100ish range, and l adore both of them, and without pixel peeking ( which I don't do ) I wouldn't rate one above the other, other than the fact that one is considerably faster and more modern than the other.
The Tamron SP 52BB 90 / 2.5 Macro is superb, at the moment I have three of them. One is for sale, one is 100% mint and boxed, one is my user lens. It really is a very versatile lens that is sharp and good in every respect.
My other lens is the SMC Takumar Macro 100 / 4, which is slow and older - the coatings are almost certainly less sophisticated than the Tamron, but 'work with it' and do a bit of PP and all will be forgiven. It's a fabulous lens, but it's not a 'walkabout' lens like the Tamron, it's a lens that has to be used with thought ( and a tripod ! )
I wouldn't be without either lens, both will deliver superb images. But they are different, they are what they are. I'm lucky to have both. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10556 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:45 am Post subject: |
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Check out the Nikkors! http://www.photosynthesis.co.nz/nikon/lenses.html#105Micro _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Alun Thomas
Joined: 20 Aug 2018 Posts: 632 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:51 am Post subject: |
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Alun Thomas wrote:
I have 3 older macro lenses in that focal range, the Tamron, the Bokina, and the Komine.
The Tamron is slightly under 500g, does 1:2 at that weight, and is quite compact. I have to admit, I haven't used it much. If you have a recently released camera, maybe the blue spot thing isn't such a thing now, it is an interaction between the lens and sensor. To be fair I don't know, but this could be the case.
The Komine lens is ~550g and does 1:1. It's my preferred lens of them all. Generally, a macro lens for walkaround work really only needs to be close focus, the flatness of the field almost becomes immaterial. Now, I haven't tested the Komine for flatness of field, but they did market it as a macro lens, which leads me to believe it would be reasonably flat, and have acceptable resolution across the frame. Komine didn't get a good reputation for no reason. For walkaround work I found it more than acceptable.
The Bokina is ~660g and does 1:2 at that weight. I also haven't used that one a lot. Mainly because I am happy with the Komine lens for general close focus usage. It does have a very good reputation.
I have had the Kiron lens in the past, it weighs about the same as the Bokina and does 1:1, and has a good reputation, but again, I never did much with my copy.
Another option is the Cosina made 100/3.5, at just over 200g, another lens I have previously owned. The build quality is rubbish, but the pics you see online don't lie. It does 1:2 and uses a diopter to get 1:1. Might be worth considering. |
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kypfer
Joined: 27 Sep 2017 Posts: 519 Location: Jersey C.I.
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:38 am Post subject: |
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kypfer wrote:
My Tamron Adaptall-2 #52B 90mm has followed me around since the '70's, through four changes of mount, and is still perfectly good, so, for it's purposes, I see no reason to change it |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7554 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:50 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Get the Tamron 72B if you need a lightweight lens reach 1:1 of its own. Laowa 100/2.8(for SLR) or 90/2.8(for MILC) is good if you need 2:1. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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Manichaean
Joined: 03 Oct 2013 Posts: 68
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Manichaean wrote:
D1N0 wrote: |
Vivitar has a Kiron 105, Tokina 90, and Komine 90 |
The last one is also known as Panagor, Elicar and some generic brands.
BTW I also like Bokina very much, but my favourite one is Olympus OM 90mm f/2 - that's the true king of them all |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 2934 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Manichaean wrote: |
D1N0 wrote: |
Vivitar has a Kiron 105, Tokina 90, and Komine 90 |
The last one is also known as Panagor, Elicar and some generic brands.
BTW I also like Bokina very much, but my favourite one is Olympus OM 90mm f/2 - that's the true king of them all |
Yes, this is a great lens. I've tested it against the Tokina AT-X 90mm f/2.5. You can find the comparison here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/zuiko-90mm-f-2-macro-vs-tokina-at-x-90mm-f-2-5-macro-t83417.html
It is slightly better than the Tokina (at wider apertures, mainly in the corners), and of course it's a bit faster.
It is usually crazy expensive though.
A very good choice if you don't want to spend too much is the Minolta AF 100mm f/2.8. Here a little test against the Tokina:
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=84146
I think its performance is on par with the Olympus, but it has a few disadvantages (if you care):
- It is a stop slower
- The (nice) metal version of this lens has only a tiny focusing ring (because it is an AF lens)
- You need the proper adapter, either an expensive AF adapter, or a manual adapter with built-in aperture ring: I use this: https://fotodioxpro.com/products/sna-sne-p
Good news is:
- It can be found cheap (between 100 en 150 euros)
- It does 1:1 magnification
- It's build like a tank, just like the Tokina and Olympus
It is an absolute steel for what it is. |
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Manichaean
Joined: 03 Oct 2013 Posts: 68
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Manichaean wrote:
caspert79 wrote: |
A very good choice if you don't want to spend too much is the Minolta AF 100mm f/2.8. Here a little test against the Tokina:
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=84146
I think its performance is on par with the Olympus, but it has a few disadvantages (if you care):
- It is a stop slower
- The (nice) metal version of this lens has only a tiny focusing ring (because it is an AF lens)
- You need the proper adapter, either an expensive AF adapter, or a manual adapter with built-in aperture ring: I use this: https://fotodioxpro.com/products/sna-sne-p
It is an absolute steel for what it is. |
I also have this lens but I think the bokeh of Olympus is much better (if you also use it as a portrait lens). I'm considering to get a Minolta AF 100mm f/2 but it is not a macro lens, so off topic here. |
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RokkorDoctor
Joined: 27 Nov 2021 Posts: 1276 Location: Kent, UK
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: 90 ~ 105mm (ish) macro lenses |
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RokkorDoctor wrote:
connloyalist wrote: |
With the weather around here turning having turned cold and bleak (seeing the sun between 1 November and 1 April in these parts can be an unusual occurrence), I am considering adding a 100mm -ish macro lens to my collection. At the moment I own a 50mm OM macro, but nothing in the 100mm range.
As far as I know, there are a number of lenses in this category. In no particular order:
Canon FD 100mm 4.0
Pentax SMC-M or SMC-A 100mm 4.0 (I am assuming they are optically identical)
Tamron 52B 90mm 2.5
Tamron 72B 90mm 2.8
Kiron 105mm
Minolta 100mm 4.0
Several Vivitar models
Several Soligor models
Undoubtedly I am missing a few from this list. Ideally I would like to keep the weight below 500 grams. I have read pros and cons of several of these. Canon apparently is front heavy. Tamron 52B has the flat rear element thing which is sometimes a problem? If memory serves one of the Vivitars is highly regarded but I forget which one.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
Regards, C. |
As others have already suggested, most of these lenses are good (from what I have seen/heard over the years; I only have personal experience with the Minolta 100/4.) When specifically optimised for macro-range near 1:1 photography these lenses can be designed to be fairly symmetrical, aiding the correction of aberrations.
I'm in the UK and I understand what you say about plummeting levels of light.
Beware that using a 100mm~ish macro outdoors this time of year isn't straightforward using natural lighting (in the UK/Netherlands). Very low light levels & windy conditions often require supplementary lighting and/or a very good camera (and/or subject) support for macro photography outdoors.
If you are intending to do indoor macro photography, weight is far less of an issue and a 100mm bellows lens + bellows are perhaps another option to consider. _________________ Mark
SONY A7S, A7RII + dust-sealed modded Novoflex/Fotodiox/Rayqual MD-NEX adapters
Minolta SR-1, SRT-101/303, XD7/XD11, XGM, X700
Bronica SQAi
Ricoh GX100
Minolta majority of all Rokkor SR/AR/MC/MD models made
Sigma 14mm/3.5 for SR mount
Tamron SP 60B 300mm/2.8 (Adaptall)
Samyang T-S 24mm/3.5 (Nikon mount, DIY converted to SR mount)
Schneider-Kreuznach PC-Super-Angulon 28mm/2.8 (SR mount)
Bronica PS 35/40/50/65/80/110/135/150/180/200/250mm |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2935 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Olympus OM 90mm f2 Macro. A bit expensive, but worth every penny. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Not too long ago I have compared the following "mid-range" macro lenses at infinity (!) on 24 MP FF A7II (results not published):
Canon FD 4/100mm Macro
Konica AR 4/105mm Macro
Minolta MC-II, MC-X and MD-I 4/100mm Macro
Minolta MD-III 4/100mm Macro
Minolta AF 2.8/100mm Macro
Nikkor Ai 4/105mm Macro
Nikkor AiS 2.8/105mm Macro
Nikkor AF 2.8/105mm Macro (early version)
Pentax Super-Macro-Takumar 4/100mm Macro
Tamron SP 2.5/90mm Macro (52B)
Komine (Admiral/Vivitar) 2.8/90mm Macro
Kiron (Vivitar) 2.8/100mm Macro
Novoflex Noflexar 4/105mm Macro
Out of these, the MD 4/100mm Macro was - by a small margin - the best. No CAs, sharp corners wide open, no visible distortion. The Tamron SP 2.5/90mm Macro was nearly as good, but quite a bit faster, of course.
Canon FD 4/100mm Macro, Nikkor Ai 4/100mm Macro and Konica AR 4/105mm Macro were slightly less sharp and had some (few!!) lateral CAs in the corners. Same for the Minolta AF 2.8/100mm Macro (and similar to the Minolta MD 2.5/100mm btw which is sharper than the corresponding Nikkor 2.5/105mm [Xenotar]).
Compared to the Minolta AF, the Nikkor AiS/AF 2.8/105mm Macro again has slightly more "blur" and lateral CAs.
Kiron and more so Komine have a visibly reduced corner resolution at f2.8, and the (old!!) Noflexar (a simple triplet only!!) is clearly the worst of the bunch, at least at infinity.
I can't comment on the macro performance. I have tried to test it at 1:2 with "real world" objects such as yellow flowers, but wind and moving flowers made it impossible to get reliable resuilts. I leave that to the experts here at mflenses ... !
My personal favourite is the Minolta MD 4/100mm (which I recently used for professional shootings of golden / silver religious objects on 43 MP FF); however the Tamron is more versatile (f2.5) and smaller (Minolta focusing feels more precise). Both go to 1:2 only.
If you need a lens going to 1:1 you may choose the Nikkor AiS 2.8/105 - but be aware of issues with focusing (often comes with hard or completely blocked focusing mechanism. VERY difficult to clean). Optically better, with reliable focusing mechanism, and CHEAP is the Minolta AF 2.8/100mm, preferrably in its firts full metal version. That's a real sleeper - this lens works well with 43 MP FF sensors as well (especially in the f4.5-f8 range).
Maybe this helps ...
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1554 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:20 am Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
I don't have much to add but I'm waiting for a Tokina AT-X 90mm 2.5.
The only lens to compare it with for me is a Canon 100mm 2.8 macro USM.
I regret not getting a Tamron 90mm when they were 50 euro not long ago. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I bought my Tamron 90 macro over 30 years ago, and paid about 90 USD for it. That was a pretty good deal back then, back when 90 bucks was still worth a fair chunk of change. I just checked US eBay, and you can still pick up the 52B (the model I have) for $65 or less. So it's still priced reasonably on this side of the pond at least. _________________ Michael
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1305 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
+1 the tamron adaptall 90mm is the best value, best price/performance, most easily obtainable, and no mounting issues - get an adaptall mount to suit. A faint blue spot caused by reflection off the flat rear element is really only a very occasional issue. There isn't really any problem getting one here in the UK for comfortably less than a hundred, if you get lucky close to 50 is achievable. My own ad hoc comparisons with the komine made vivitar 90mm, vivitar 105mm, an elicar 90mm, a "bokina" tokina made 90mm indicate that the tamron yields nothing to these lenses, though I can add its a bit softer at f2.5 especially corners.
The optics and performance of the two models (52B and later 52BB) are the same. The choice between them is really one of handling and feel. The earlier 52B is more of a classic metal 'n glass lens, chunkier heavier feel and focus is a bit stiffer - can tend to be on the stiff side with some actually. The later 52BB is more plastickey and has a lighter feel focussing. The 52BB has an issue occasionally with a sticky iris not fully stopping down - there are threads on this.
The 72B that succeeded the 52B has the merit of being 1:1 macro, but is much less common and usually at least double the price. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10556 Location: California
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visualopsins wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
...yellow flowers, but wind and moving flowers made it impossible to get reliable resuilts. I leave that to the experts here at mflenses ...! ... |
Yes indeed!
Besides constantly changing lighting, and wind, plants move(!) constantly as they grow, sometimes what was in focus 5 minutes ago has moved! For example, the Arailia Californica can grow over a foot a day; I've actually sat and watched it, and some other plants such as Brassicas grow before my eyes. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Doc Sharptail
Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Posts: 996 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
Of all the lenses mentioned here, I've had only the Vivitar 135mm f 2.8 close focusing, and wouldn't mind finding another.
I can relate to wind induced motion blur- it occurs at shutter speeds far faster than I had originally anticipated.
It seems every time I finally get properly lined up on a "good" macro shot, the wind puffs up, seemingly out of nowhere.
Patience seems to come slow to me when I most need it
-D.S. _________________
D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
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ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:19 am Post subject: |
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ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote:
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Konica AR 4/105mm Macro
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Stefan, this is an unusual lens since it has no helicoid thus can´t be focused, but is intended to be used on a bellows or probably the "original" helicoid adapter from Konica which I´ve never seen. It seems to be a good lens, a bit further down my "wanted" list, but - do you have more information on that dubious adapter helicoid? _________________ Cheers, Gerhard |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7554 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:58 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
Konica AR 4/105mm Macro
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Stefan, this is an unusual lens since it has no helicoid thus can´t be focused, but is intended to be used on a bellows or probably the "original" helicoid adapter from Konica which I´ve never seen. It seems to be a good lens, a bit further down my "wanted" list, but - do you have more information on that dubious adapter helicoid? |
Get a AR to LM adapter with brass M mount like the one below, remove the M mount with a M42 mount.
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kymarto
Joined: 30 Nov 2016 Posts: 406 Location: Portland, OR and Milan, Italy
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:27 am Post subject: Re: 90 ~ 105mm (ish) macro lenses |
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kymarto wrote:
connloyalist wrote: |
With the weather around here turning having turned cold and bleak (seeing the sun between 1 November and 1 April in these parts can be an unusual occurrence), I am considering adding a 100mm -ish macro lens to my collection. At the moment I own a 50mm OM macro, but nothing in the 100mm range.
As far as I know, there are a number of lenses in this category. In no particular order:
Canon FD 100mm 4.0
Pentax SMC-M or SMC-A 100mm 4.0 (I am assuming they are optically identical)
Tamron 52B 90mm 2.5
Tamron 72B 90mm 2.8
Kiron 105mm
Minolta 100mm 4.0
Several Vivitar models
Several Soligor models
Undoubtedly I am missing a few from this list. Ideally I would like to keep the weight below 500 grams. I have read pros and cons of several of these. Canon apparently is front heavy. Tamron 52B has the flat rear element thing which is sometimes a problem? If memory serves one of the Vivitars is highly regarded but I forget which one.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
Regards, C. |
We should not forget the Macro Apo Lanthars, both 110 and 125mm f2.5 by Voigtlaender. The sharpest absolute are the 105mm f5.6 Apo EL Nikkor and the 95mm and 105mm Printing Nikkors. _________________ Vintage lens aficionado |
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connloyalist
Joined: 22 Jul 2020 Posts: 252 Location: the Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:47 am Post subject: |
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connloyalist wrote:
Thank you all for the insightful answers, very helpful. I am planning to primarily use this lens indoors, at least for the next few months during which sunshine is a rare occurrence around here. Come spring I might well take it outside, hence the preference for something not much heavier than 500 grams.
Regards, C. |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
connloyalist wrote: |
Thank you all for the insightful answers, very helpful. I am planning to primarily use this lens indoors, at least for the next few months during which sunshine is a rare occurrence around here. Come spring I might well take it outside, hence the preference for something not much heavier than 500 grams.
Regards, C. |
Looks liek it might become the Tamron SP 2.5/90mm ...? Fast, sharp, and relatively lightweight (about 460g with M42 mount; other mounts may slightly differ). Very well suited for portraits as well, not only for macro stuff!
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