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beachboy2
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beachboy2 wrote:
I just received a Jupiter 9 lens from Russia to join my Mir 1b, Helios 44M and 3M-5A lenses. Lens is mint as descibed on ebay. However reference was made to a built-in hood. I'm not sure if seller was mistaken or I am missing something? Lens is a very solid piece with an amazing no of blades! Can anyone enlighten me about the "in-built hood"?
Thanks
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sichko
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:10 am Post subject: Re: Jupiter 9 lens hood? |
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sichko wrote:
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I just received a Jupiter 9 lens from Russia to join my Mir 1b and 3M-5A lenses. Lens is mint as descibed on ebay. However reference was made to a built-in hood. I'm not sure if seller was mistaken or I am missing something? Lens is a very solid piece with an amazing no of blades! Can anyone enlighten me about the "in-built hood"?
Thanks
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I saw a listing like that - and I was as confused as you. AFAIK no version of the Jupiter 9 has a built in hood.
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no-X
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:56 am Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
Maybe the seller sold also TAIR-11A or Jupiter-21M and made a copy/paste error (these lenses has built-in hood, Jupiter-9 hasn't)
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beachboy2
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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beachboy2 wrote:
Thanks, my mind is at ease.
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kuuan
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
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| Thanks, my mind is at ease. |
it is good to have a calm mind..
but as the previous posters had pointed out the J-9 does not have a built in hood, some mistake must have been made..
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Farside
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
I wouldn't worry about it - even if it had a built-in hood like the Tair 11A, it would probably be too short to be much use. I always put a fairly normal hood on my Tair.
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Poolhall
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Poolhall wrote:
Alex photo goods on ebay sells the right hoods for the Jupiter 9, 51mm push on, had some still yesterday  |
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estudleon
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
51 mm?
It can be too short for the J-9, isn't it?
A 8 or 9 cm. may be a good one.
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Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
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Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
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Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
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Poolhall
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Poolhall wrote:
51mm wide to push over the 49mm filter ring, it would be about 90-100mm long I think |
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
If you like the bricolage, perhaps can find fun:
http://www.novacon.com.br/jupiter9.htm
Part III - Technical data.
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Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
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beachboy2
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:00 am Post subject: |
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beachboy2 wrote:
A very interesting reference thanks.
PS my Takumar hood from 135mm f3.5 lens fits fine.
bb2
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Poolhall
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Poolhall wrote:
Interesting Rino, Novacon is a great site. Luis the guy that runs it has a lot a fascinating stuff on it and is a very interesting and helpful man too. |
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joedream
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: |
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joedream wrote:
When I bought my Jupiter-9 I looked for a hood also. No "in-built hood" so I found THIS and I bought it. Very usefull and very similar with Novacon schemas. |
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estudleon
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
I use it too, and glued to it the plastic pentax 85 shade.
My jupiter shade has 70 m m x 65 mm.
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Poolhall
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Poolhall wrote:
Here is my Jupter 9 with the Russian hood designed for it
and closer
and the other metal hood I use with it too
The plastic hood is also supposedly for the original Tair-11 and Helios 44. |
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estudleon
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
The Astron looks very usefull.
It's a shame that the j-9 is so prone to flare, 'cos it's a great portrait lens.
Nothing is perfect.
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Poolhall
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Poolhall wrote:
Very true Rino, but I wouldn't be without it! The Astron hood came with a Pentax Takumar 4/100 macro, I use it with a lot of lenses, it is extremely useful. |
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hintheman
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Location: Fremont, CA
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hintheman wrote:
http://www.techtheman.com/2008/03/jupiter9-85mm-f20-test-shots.html
And you can search for 49mm metal lens hood in this ebay wonderful seller by the name heavystar
http://myworld.ebay.com/heavystar/
and his latest item is this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360202869580
Not only it is a lens hood but it also includes the matching lens cap for the lens hood, which is bigger as in 58mm or something bigger. That way, I have the lens hood always mounted to protect the lens.
Hope this helps you,
Hin
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Misha_M
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Misha_M wrote:
Speaking of hoods, what hoods would one buy for old lenses? petal? round?
When I asked in a local camera shop, they told me that each lens has a hood especially designed for it... so is buying a "regular" 52mm \ 49mm thread hood a good thing to do?
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Jupiter 9 85 f/2 1959
Helios 44M 58 f/2 1978
Helios 44-2 58 f/2 1977
Helios 44 (13 blades) 1959
Helios 77M4 50 f/1.8
Zenitar-M 50 f/1.7 1986
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