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malsano
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 Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:39 am Post subject: 28mm test:CONTAX 28 f2, NIKON 28 f1.4, YASHICA 28 f2.8,CANON |
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malsano wrote:
Yesterday, I did a fast test in order to evaluate the sharp performance of my 28mm.
This is a mini-test , nothing to professional. Even because is the first time that I posted a test 
Settings:
- canon 5D Mk III
- RAW
- photoshop CS6 (just to open, convert and crop)
- iso 100
- tripod
- canon faithful image style
- manual focus
- all crop are 100%
Lenses tested:
- contax 28 f2 AE mat 588xxx
- contax 28 f2 AE mat 608xxx (my defected copy that i'm using for boken)
- yashica ML 28 f2.8
- Nikon 28 f1,4
- canon 24-70 L mk I at 28mm
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"Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
SONY a7
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malsano
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:52 am Post subject: |
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malsano wrote:
Nikon 28 f1,4 @f1,4
Contax 28 f2 @f2 mat 588xxx
Contax 28 f2 @f2 mat 608xxx (defected) but fantastic for boken
Yashica ML 28 f2,8 @f2,8
Canon 24-70 L mk I f2,8 @28mmF2,8
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"Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
SONY a7 |
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malsano
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:56 am Post subject: |
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malsano wrote:
the "defected" contax 28 even looks to have a little more barrel thant the older 28 mat 588xxx
From my side I'm surprised about the Nikon: the reputation is not good, but from my side is the better of these.
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"Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
SONY a7 |
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Ultrapix
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Ultrapix wrote:
Excuse me, but at this size it's an unuseful effort... we need at least some crop, better if at the same f: |
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Mark
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Mark wrote:
Crops would be nice, I am interested in a real world test like this!
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malsano
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:07 am Post subject: |
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malsano wrote:
Nikon 28 f1,4 @1,4 center crop
Contax 28 f2 @f2 mat 588xxx center crop
Contax 28 f2 @f2 mat 608xxx center crop
Yashica ML @f2,8 center crop
Canon 28 @28mm f2,8 center crop
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"Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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malsano
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:08 am Post subject: |
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malsano wrote:
guys give me time ) i'm uploading everything. I'll write once I'll finish everything.
thanks
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"Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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malsano
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:14 am Post subject: |
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malsano wrote:
Nikon 28 f1,4 @1,4 CORNER CROP
Contax 28 f2 @f2 mat 588xxx corner crop
Contax 28 f2 @f2 mat 608xxx corner crop
Yashica ML 28 @f2,8 corner crop
Canon 24-70 L mk I @28mm f2,8 corner crop
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"Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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malsano
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:20 am Post subject: |
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malsano wrote:
Nikon 28 f1,4 @5,6
Contax 28 f2 @f5,6 mat 588xxx
contax 28 f2 @5,6 mat 608xxx
Yashica 28 f2,8 @5,6
Canon 24-70 @28mmf5,6
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"Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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malsano
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:26 am Post subject: |
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malsano wrote:
Nikon 28 f1,4 @5,6 center crop
Contax 28 f2 @5,6 mat 588xxx center crop
Contax 28 f2 @5,6 mat 608xxx center crop
Yashcia 28 @5,6 center crop
Canon 24-70 L mkI f2,8 @28mm f5,6 center crop
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"Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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malsano
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:31 am Post subject: |
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malsano wrote:
Nikon 28 f1,4 @5,6 corner crop
Contax 28 f2 @5,6 mat588xxx corner crop crop
Contax 28 f2 @5,6 mat608xxx corner crop
Yashica 28 f2,8 @5,6 corner crop
Canon 24-70 L f2,8 @28mm f5,6 corner crop
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"Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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malsano
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:32 am Post subject: |
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malsano wrote:
Finish ))
Let's go to comment it
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"Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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malsano
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:35 am Post subject: |
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malsano wrote:
The "old" canon 24-70 did well his job. I supposed it will be the worst one , but It showed good performance respect the fix lenses.
This is one of the latest copies ( mat UZ) and it's better of my previous ( US)
Thanks
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"Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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Ultrapix
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Ultrapix wrote:
Thank you, great work!
Comments:
-you have a great copy of Canon 
-Nikkor is a real surprise, the winner to me too!
-Distagon is still an awesome lens
-Yashinon is a cheap shortcut to an acceptable quality, when stopped a little |
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kopi234
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:12 am Post subject: |
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kopi234 wrote:
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From my side I'm surprised about the Nikon: the reputation is not good, but from my side is the better of these. |
You must be kidding, I always read good things about the nikkor 28/1.4 every where, well known for its high performance.
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ForenSeil
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:14 am Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
How did you focus? The non-broken Contax is much more worse than I expected.
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malsano
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:50 am Post subject: |
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malsano wrote:
Manual in live view with 10X ...
I have a personal opinion about these lenses...
I tried 4 different rings + even laitax new bayonet and my sensation is that these two lenses need to be more close to the Canon sensor .
few months ago I even got another copy of 28 f2 AE and the performances where in the middle of my two copies that I still have.
I even discovered that 5d mk III is worst than 5d mk II in terms of mirror tolerances (in fact my 18 AE doesn't work). 1dX same problem.
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"Every picture tells you a story"
CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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malsano
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malsano wrote:
This is the reason why i'm still keeping (and i'll never sell) my "defected "copy of contax 28 f2 mat608xxx
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CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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malsano
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malsano wrote:
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CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
The Canon looks superb to me 
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sammo
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Wait, Nikon not having reputation? I thought the reputation is that this is one the best Nikkor lenses ever. Some years after they stopped producing it, the price got higher than for a new lens. It sure is amazing, so sharp at f/1.4... It's very tempting to sell some lenses and get this Nikon. What's the bokeh like?
About the broken Contax...is it a floating element design? By the looks from the photo it could be that the "floating distance" is not calibrated. I can easily get this kind of effect if I mess with my Kiron 28mm f/2 |
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malsano
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malsano wrote:
Yes, it has floating system. For sure it has calibration problem (infinity mostly).
About Nikon, I've just gotten it and it's my first test. I read about it before and the lens wasn't appreciate by everyone (like canon 50 1,0, .... BUT NOT like canon 200 1,8 . This to say that not all legendary lenses are loved...).
I did a test in the night :
- Nikon 28 1,4
- canon 24 1,4 mk II
- contax 28 f2 mat 588xxx (the good one)
- contax 35 f1,4 mat 586xxx
and the Nikon, in terms of coma , was the best one.
ciao
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CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| The Canon looks superb to me |
If you like arch-shaped buildings, perhaps yes 
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and the Nikon, in terms of coma , was the best one.
ciao |
It's almost impossible to visually detect coma in almost all of modern day lenses, they're all well corrected for it. You may find it in those
cheap chinese wide extensions for video cameras  but hardly in a Nikon, Canon, or Contax lens.
Do not confuse coma for the bokeh highlights distortion, which is caused by oblique astigmatism. More about it here: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/geoopt/coma.html
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malsano
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malsano wrote:
ciao Orio,
to be honest I've ever seen discussion about Coma. like http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/50mm-f12-coma.htm
May you kindly give some pictures as exemplum about the differences between coma and light distorcion? Now you get me noise about...
Why a lens, like Nikon 58 1,2 noctilus, projected to avoid Coma in film era it didn't have light distortion?
Thanks
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CANON EOS: 5d mk III, 24 f1.4 L mkII, 24 f3.5 L mk II, 50 f1.0 L, 300 f2.8 L IS, 16-35 f2.8 L mkII, 24-70 f2.8 L
CANON FD: F1N AE, T90, 14 f2.8 L, 17 f4, 24 f1,4L, 24 f2, 28 f2, 35 f2 Thorio,35 f2.8 TS, 50 1.2 L, 55 1.2 ASPHERICAL, 85 f1.2L, 100 f2 , 135 f2, 200 f2,8 IF new, 300 f2.8 Fluorite, 20-35 f3.5 L, 28-85 f4, 35-105 f3.5, 35-105 f3.5-4.5 ASPH, 50-300 f4.5L, 80-200 f4 L, 100-300 f5.6 L, 500L f4,5
CONTAX 645 AE with 45 f2.8, 80 f2, 120 f4 makro,
CONTAX: Yashica FR, contax 15 f3.5, contax 18 f4 AE, contax 21 f2.8 , yashica 24 f2.8 ML, contax 28 f2 AE, yashica 28 f2.8 ML, contax 35 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.4 AE, contax 50 f1.7AE, contax 85 f1.2 60th MM, contax 100 f2, contax 135 f2 AE.
OLYMPUS OM: OM2, 18 f3.5, 21 f2, 35 f2.8 new, 50 f1.8 new, 55 f1.2
NIKON: F2As, 28 f1.4 D
LAICA R: 180 3,4 APO E60
HELIOS: 40-2 85 f1.5
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sammo
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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sammo wrote:
Coma is, when a light sources look as tiny comets pointing towards the center of the lens, right? This also produces the "exploding bokeh" in extreme examples. The more commonly seen aberation in modern wides is astigmatism - the small arcs on the light sources.
For these abberations the Nikon is extremely well corrected. For comparison, I seen some wideopen photos of Canon 24mm L at 1.4 and the amount of astigmatism seen there makes it useless for night photography or milky way photography. As I read, the Nikon 28mm was by purpose made to deal the best with these situations, somehow like a modern counterpart of Noct Nikkor. |
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