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Salatik
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 Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject: Soft focus portraits MC Jupiter 9 85mm f/2 Pentax K10d |
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Salatik wrote:
Here are the latest shots. Almost all f/2.8 (It's a crazy sample of Jupiter, so I was afraid to shoot wide open)
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ryan s
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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ryan s wrote:
In the EXIF, I notice the focal length is set to 50mm but you are using a sufficiently high shutter speed...setting the SR to 85mm should sharpen them right up as it seems SR isn't "compensating" enough and they almost have a motion blur look. I've done it more times than I care to admit 
#4, however, is spot on to my eyes  I'm a fan of the desaturated/old style toning when done sparingly 
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NikonD wrote:
I like them too...  |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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danikatia wrote:
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Me too!
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Salatik
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Salatik wrote:
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| In the EXIF, I notice the focal length is set to 50mm but you are using a sufficiently high shutter speed...setting the SR to 85mm should sharpen them right up as it seems SR isn't "compensating" enough and they almost have a motion blur look. I've done it more times than I care to admit |
OMG!  You are right! I use near 50mm lenses as a rule, and looks like I've forgotten to change stabilizer settings. Anyway it helps to get crazy effects so I will to do this again
Thanks for advice!
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Salatik
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Salatik wrote:
And thanks to you guys for comments of course.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I like the model, the setting and the post processing, but many shots are defocused or motion blurred unfortunately. Better give up some ISO and have a faster shutter speed. Don't forget that stabilizer alone can not do the shot, unless your model is perfectly still (something that often deprives the photo of a lot of expression), your shutter time must be able to freeze your subject, so a time of 1/125 is the minimum.
I never photograph models slower than 1/250 unless I really can not do otherwise.
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Salatik
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Salatik wrote:
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I like the model, the setting and the post processing, but many shots are defocused or motion blurred unfortunately. Better give up some ISO and have a faster shutter speed. Don't forget that stabilizer alone can not do the shot, unless your model is perfectly still (something that often deprives the photo of a lot of expression), your shutter time must be able to freeze your subject, so a time of 1/125 is the minimum.
I never photograph models slower than 1/250 unless I really can not do otherwise. |
This isn't defocus or motion blur, this is incorrect setting for build-in stabilizer. I've forgot to change it from 50mm to 85, and got some unpredictable result. It wasn't doing specially, but I like a final result because it's looking more interesting than a standart sharp result.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Nice results! FWIW: it's not a problem of the incorrect focal length setting for the SR. Because if it was set at 50mm then it would also prevent camera shake, only a little less good than at 85m.
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Orio wrote:
Well, #1 and #2 are clearly defocused (back focused), the sharp neck shows that there was no problem of camera stabilization. #3 is front-focused (see hair which is sharp). All this are defocusing problems (unless one of course does that on purpose as aesthetic choice).
What you call soft focus here does not really depend on camera shake (in my opinion), rather on defocusing or on partial subject motion (see last picture, if it was a camera stabilization problem you would have blur on all parts of the image equally, instead you have, on nearly the same plane, sharp hair and slightly blurred earring).
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Salatik
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Salatik wrote:
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| Well, #1 and #2 are clearly defocused (back focused), the sharp neck shows that there was no problem of camera stabilization. #3 is front-focused (see hair which is sharp). |
I don't agree with you at all. #3 - look hair is sharp in front and in back, why? Is it front back focus? Or back front focus? 
And on 1st picture neck looks more sharp because it's closer to center of frame, and of course resolution and sharpness are better there.
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