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dof
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 Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: best bargain 24mm lens? |
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dof wrote:
Which would you put in the list of best bargain M42 or adaptable 24mm lenses? (for 35mm format, any max aperture) |
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YureW
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YureW wrote:
My best 24 is the Zuiko 24/2.8, but the bargain is the Macro Revuenon 24/4: i bought it for 30 or 40 euro two years ago, and it's a very good lens. |
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
| YureW wrote: |
| My best 24 is the Zuiko 24/2.8, but the bargain is the Macro Revuenon 24/4: i bought it for 30 or 40 euro two years ago, and it's a very good lens. |
4/24 aka Enna lithagon or Ennalyt
I didn't use it, but has very good fame.
2,8/24 hexanon is very good too.
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YureW
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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YureW wrote:
I've just searched the macro revuenon 24/4 in eBay ... 
there's one with a buy now price of 160 USD
is it overpriced, or I was very lucky two years ago? |
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LucisPictor
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LucisPictor wrote:
Tamron 2.5/24 (Adaptall-2) - price should be approx. €60 to 80,-
Nikkor 2.8/24 - price should be under €100,-
Vivitar Wide Angle 2.0/24 MC - price should be under €100,-
And the real bargain would be a Hanimex 3.5/23. It's by no means as good as the 24mm lenses above, but still usable.
I sold mine for only €34,-!
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
| YureW wrote: |
I've just searched the macro revuenon 24/4 in eBay ...
there's one with a buy now price of 160 USD
is it overpriced, or I was very lucky two years ago? |
Overpriced I think.
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dof
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:00 am Post subject: |
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dof wrote:
thanks -- who made the Revuenon lenses? Tomioka? More than one mfr? |
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Attila
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:04 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Tomioka made same lenses for Revuenon 55mm f1.4 for sure , perhaps 1.2 too. I don't know any others.
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hk300
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:40 am Post subject: |
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hk300 wrote:
Although i do not have experience myself, i read that the Sigma 24/2.8 is not bad. I can be bought for EUR30 - 50.
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YureW
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:42 am Post subject: |
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YureW wrote:
| dof wrote: |
| thanks -- who made the Revuenon lenses? Tomioka? More than one mfr? |
The 24/4, as said by estudleon, is made by Enna. It's marked "Lens made in W. Germany" on the barrel.
I think it's a Ennalyt, because AFAIK the Lithagon is a preset lens, and mine is an auto one. |
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Case from Holland
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Case from Holland wrote:
| YureW wrote: |
I've just searched the macro revuenon 24/4 in eBay ...
there's one with a buy now price of 160 USD
is it overpriced, or I was very lucky two years ago? |
Overpriced.
I bougt it for only 10€ .
Nobody wanted it...... |
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visualopsins
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| Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:19 am Post subject: bargain 24/2.8 |
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visualopsins wrote:
Soligor 24mm f2.8 67mm filters.
cost me $41 on ebaY, not bad for a fast 24, yes?
i've only tried a few quick snapshots. it seems very good, okay sharp wide open, pretty sharp f8-11.
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rawhead wrote:
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| Tomioka made same lenses for Revuenon 55mm f1.4 for sure , perhaps 1.2 too. I don't know any others. |
Revuenon's 50/1.8 is a Pentacon (Meyer) 50/1.8. I love it, it was one of my first 2 MF lenses (along with Helios 44M).
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| Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:21 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
The rare Ensinor 2.8/24 macro is very good and price is around 10-20gbp. Slight vignette at 2.8, but not a problem with digi.
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Carl
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| Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Carl wrote:
A 24mm is on my (longish-term) to-buy list (after a 5D), so I've read this thread with interest. I had been thinking of the Nikkor 24mm 2.8; I read somewhere that the Olympus Zuiko is better, but it's also significantly more expensive. How does the quality of the other 24's at a similar or lesser price compare?
The Revuenon/Enna/lithagon has been mentioned, also the Tamron and Vivitar. How do they compare (sharpness - especially 'real' corners, distortion, flare)? |
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visualopsins
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| Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: bargain 24/2.8 #2 |
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visualopsins wrote:
Spiratone 24/2.8
from ebaY for $30 (!) on 11-23-2008
haven't tried it yet (need om-ef adapter)
looks similar in construction to ultra-wide Spiratone 18/3.5.
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Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
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Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
I've just scored a 24mm Sigma XQ Filtermatic.
Hopefully it will be worth a shot - opinions vary, some say the Filtermatic 24 was sharp edge to edge, others say it's pretty awful, so there is probably a degree of copy variation at work. The XQ range was Sigma's more expensive pro /semipro offering, so I hope some attention was paid to quality control.
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Attila wrote:
I did tested personnaly 24mm f2 Zuiko, Yashica ML 24mm , Nikkor 24mm f2 AIS, Nikkor 24mm f2.8 AIS,Vivitar 24mm f2, Kiron 24mm f2 etc .
From all of them my favourite was Nikkor 24mm f2.8 AIS.
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Carl
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Carl wrote:
Thanks Attila. It's great to get information from someone with so much knolwedge of a subject. |
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