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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: Advice on lubricant for cameras |
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Jesito wrote:
Hi colleagues,
I'm using "3 in 1" (in can, not in spray) for cleaning/lubricating the mechanical parts inside the cameras.
I was using it because it's a thin light grease with cleaning properties.
Some days ago I saw somewhere in the net an article on camera fixing that was telling "not to use 3 in 1 at all".
So I'm unsure about which kind of lubricant should I use, so I'd appreciate very much your opinions about which grease to use.
Thanks in advance!.
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
CSCCanon EOS-M, Samsung NX100 and NX210, Lumix G5, NEX-F3 |
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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
None, whereever possible. And you want to avoid oil creep onto the lenses and aperture (and shutter) blades, which excludes 3-in-1 and the like.
The only place where lenses are always factory-greased is the focus and zoom gearing - and you would want a very immobilized grease in there. YMMV as to what is appropriate - the best would be the manufacturer specified grease, but having to buy and store dozens of different industrial-scale size cans for a lens collection would be prohibitive.
Long-life greases specified for aluminum/plastics compound cycle shift grips (like Shimano "green goo") are a reasonably safe and easily obtainable choice.
If you have to grease originally dry parts of a lens to make up for wear, use very minimal amounts, and resort to dry lubricants like graphite or teflon dust whereever possible.
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Stan
Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 34 Location: Seattle, WA, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Stan wrote:
> If you have to grease originally dry parts of a lens to make up for
> wear, use very minimal amounts, and resort to dry lubricants like
> graphite or teflon dust whereever possible.
IMO Graphite or teflon dust should not be used for optics. It is dust and sooner or later it will be on the lens surfaces. For wear compensation a thin teflon film used by the plumbers to seal the threads could be used. It is thin, slippery and does not produce dust. _________________ Canon 400D
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Thanks, Stan and Sevo, but I don't dare to open a lens (yet ).
I was talking about lubricating mechanical parts inside the cameras, like levers, etc.
I've heard nasty things about graphite powder. I think I'll try the oil used in sewing machines instead of the "3 in 1".
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
Jesito's backsack:
Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
CSCCanon EOS-M, Samsung NX100 and NX210, Lumix G5, NEX-F3 |
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maddog10
Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 1072 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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maddog10 wrote:
Go ahead and crack open a lens Jes, it's fun!
Another benefit of this Forum - someone will probably be able to help you put it back together again. _________________ Michael Hill |
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6549 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
maddog10 wrote: |
Go ahead and crack open a lens Jes, it's fun!
Another benefit of this Forum - someone will probably be able to help you put it back together again. |
And even if not, dismantled lenses are useful for other things. Magnifiers, doorstops, wheel chocks, plumb-bobs, you name it. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Hi Mike and Dave,
The lenses are too complex to my limitted mechanical skills. I opened a half Helios 44-2 and the base of the CZJ Planar, but did nothing with them but closing them again.
I'm afraid to touch anything that would prevent of fully working again.
Lenses are like a religuous fetish to me ...
And I've got so many cameras to fix that I'll busy for the next years, so no need to opening lenses by now.
But if the need arises, for sure I'll be asking for advice here prior to do any harm.
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
Jesito's backsack:
Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
CSCCanon EOS-M, Samsung NX100 and NX210, Lumix G5, NEX-F3 |
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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
Jesito wrote: |
I'm afraid to touch anything that would prevent of fully working again.
Lenses are like a religuous fetish to me ...
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Well, start with lenses that deserve some degree of blasphemy, then. If you want to work old lenses, you'll have to learn how to clean them - uncleaned, most show only remains of their former excellence. And if you could afford having lots of them cleaned by a pro, you'd be over in some "my new Leica" forum rather than here...
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