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Orio
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: The Cathedral of Fidenza |
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Orio wrote:
I will post here the scans from my Rollei Digibase Pro 200 low contrast negative, photos taken with Contax G2 rangefinder and some relative lenses.
I took this series of photos convinced (by others) that I had a B&W film in the machine. So I looked for dramatic or moody subjects. This one was one of them and I converted to B&W because it was how it was originally conceived and in fact that is how it works best. I am very happy with it, I think it's one of my best B&W pictures (not that I have made so many, to tell the truth).
The photo was taken handheld at a very slow shutter time (something like 1/8th or similar), luckily I could lean onto a column and the rangefinder camera has no mirror to move, so I could still make of it a good shot.
The lens used here is the Zeiss Biogon 21mm:
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:48 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
If you are curious about the original scan, here it is, scanned at 4800 DPI and at original size (24x36mm):
http://www.timelessphotography.eu/temp/fidenza08.jpg
Make sure (usually by clicking on the image) that you will see the file at the original huge size.
Some of the details remind me of the very first photographs, almost dissolved into grain.
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:24 am Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
I freely confess I thought it was B&W film...
It does convert to B&W very well though
Great composition! _________________ Richard
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DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
A crop from the 100% sized scan:
It really reminds me of the very first photograph tentatives half of 19th century. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Some more scans:
with Biogon 21mm
with Biogon 21mm
note the exquisite Romanesque primitive hunt scene on the wall
with Biogon 21mm
with Biogon 21mm
From this picture I have learned the hard way, that when doing extreme closeups, you can not trust 100% the additional viewfinder that it will show in the photo the view you see while shooting... of course the head of the lion was visible in the viewfinder...
with Biogon 21mm
with Biogon 21mm
with Biogon 21mm
with Biogon 21mm (I think)
with Biogon 21mm
with Biogon 21mm
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Attila
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Can you show me a full size scan also from one of the daytime color image too ? _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Can you show me a full size scan also from one of the daytime color image too ? |
OK, later I will do. Don't expect, however, better result than what a ISO 800 would do in digital. In other words, plenty of grain. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Orio, I like these shots a lot. What a great lens for an experienced photographer like you.
Orio wrote: |
...with Biogon 21mm
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Look at this! The perspective and effect of a super wide angle lens but the distortion of a good 35mm or 50mm lens. Wow! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
Very nice samples!
Whilst the grain is quite obvious it doesn't distract from the overall image. The film holds a lot of detail in a way that digital noise sometimes doesn't. _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
A real treat for me, thanks for sharing these, Orio! What film did you use?
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
great nice series
seems that this film have greater dynamic than digital and your G lenses are top performer _________________ T* |
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
The 1st one is my favorite. It has quality that makes it difficult to place the decade it was taken. This shot looks to me as if it could be from 1940 with a large format camera. Very nice effect Orio I love it! |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Look at this! The perspective and effect of a super wide angle lens but the distortion of a good 35mm or 50mm lens. Wow! |
Yes, I love my Biogons
Richard_D wrote: |
Very nice samples!
Whilst the grain is quite obvious it doesn't distract from the overall image. The film holds a lot of detail in a way that digital noise sometimes doesn't. |
Yes, this film is much grainy but it still holds a lot of detail. The Biogons and the "rangefinder factor" play a role in the detail amount, however. I'll try this same film on reflex and with more standard lenses, to evaluate the difference.
Katastrofo wrote: |
A real treat for me, thanks for sharing these, Orio! What film did you use?Bill |
The film is the Rollei Digibase Pro 200. It is a low-contrast colour negative film that is planned and made specifically for scanning with home scanners (that have limited dynamic range compared to drum scanners).
I have to say that in spite of the heavy grain, this film has two features that I love:
1- they are really fantastic to scan. I just put them in and scan, no need to set any parameter! You can read the lights and shadows perfectly.
2- I love the colours. They have sort of a timeless quality. And a very peculiar hue.
poilu wrote: |
great nice series
seems that this film have greater dynamic than digital and your G lenses are top performer |
Actually, this may be true! But I need to shoot more rolls to be able to understand fully this film. For now, I ma very favourably impressed!
F16SUNSHINE wrote: |
The 1st one is my favorite. It has quality that makes it difficult to place the decade it was taken. This shot looks to me as if it could be from 1940 with a large format camera. Very nice effect Orio I love it! |
Yes, to me the full size of scan even reminds me of the early photographs taken with hours of exposure on a single silver coated plate! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:58 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks for the film info, Orio, not a cheap film, but great results!
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