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Nikos
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:47 pm Post subject: Test: Contax Sonnar 135 2.8 vs Canon 70-200 f/2.8L IS II |
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Nikos wrote:
I did some testing today.
The Sonnar 2.8/135 was left in a corner since it arrived.
You told me it is not a top performer. I kind of looked down upon it.
However, I remember that the Zeiss MTF told me a different story...
So I set up my sturdy tripod and made some shots.
I compared it to the new Canon 70-200 f/2.8L IS II.
Apart from ultra-expensive, this lens is also considered ultra-sharp among Canon users. I agree with this statement.
Now, in my tests, the Sonnar 135mm f/2.8 turned out to be better.
Both in resolution and vignetting.
The target was a 50 X 75 cm ISO resolution chart printed by me (Kodak Europe actually), which was 3 meters away. Shooting conditions were controlled and stable. Timer & mirror lock-up
If the Sonnar outperforms the 70-200, it is not "one of the poorest performers in the Contax line".
ALL PHOTOS WIDE-OPEN AT 2.8 (100% crops at 21MP)
1A. Canon, center of frame
1B. Sonnar, center of frame
2A. Canon, frame edge
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Canon 70-200 2.8 IS II _________________ Νίκος • www.diafragma.gr
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visualopsins
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Great test! Thanks for it.
Not surprising to me a prime lens, especially 135mm, is sharper than zoom. I suspect there are many budget 135mm lenses that outperform the zoom. There is a possibility a zoom in 'sweet spot' might outperform a prime of same focal length, but I have not seen an examples...
'If the Sonnar outperforms the 70-200, it is not "one of the poorest performers in the Contax line"' should be interpreted to mean there are no 'dogs' in Contax line?
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karabud
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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karabud wrote:
It`s MM or AE Sonnar ? _________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/atheist_lenses/
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Nikos
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
I suspect there are many budget 135mm lenses that outperform the zoom.
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I wouldn't be so sure. This zoom is VERY good.
It is better at 2.8 than Canon's 135mm f/2 prime @ 2.8
See the crops here
This and the Nikon 14-24mm are the only zooms with a score of 9.9 at FredMiranda.com.
And the score of 14-24 will drop as more reviews come in.
visualopsins wrote: |
'If the Sonnar outperforms the 70-200, it is not "one of the poorest performers in the Contax line"' should be interpreted to mean there are no 'dogs' in Contax line?
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Probably yes
Anyway. I am now again confident that $200 for this lens was a bargain _________________ Νίκος • www.diafragma.gr
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Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
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AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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Nikos
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
karabud wrote: |
It`s MM or AE Sonnar ? |
It is one of the last MM Japan.
S/N : 8.079.XXX |
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Sonnar 135 is a very good lens, especially the MM version, whereas the AE is a bit soft wide open.
It is true however that it isn't the top performer in the Contax line so if it did blow away the supermega Canon L lens, what will happen with say the Sonnar 3.5/100? Probably will turn the Canon L to dust! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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karabud
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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karabud wrote:
nkanellopoulos wrote: |
karabud wrote: |
It`s MM or AE Sonnar ? |
It is one of the last MM Japan.
S/N : 8.079.XXX |
I got AEJ and unfortunately is less sharp therefore i`m selling it
btw i don`t like mfd of this lens - 1,6m.... _________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/atheist_lenses/
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
karabud wrote: |
nkanellopoulos wrote: |
karabud wrote: |
It`s MM or AE Sonnar ? |
It is one of the last MM Japan.
S/N : 8.079.XXX |
I got AEJ and unfortunately is less sharper therefore i`m selling it
btw i don`t like mfd of this lens - 1,6m.... |
But the AE has excellent 3D... you lose some you win some... _________________ Orio, Administrator
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karabud
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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karabud wrote:
Orio wrote: |
karabud wrote: |
nkanellopoulos wrote: |
karabud wrote: |
It`s MM or AE Sonnar ? |
It is one of the last MM Japan.
S/N : 8.079.XXX |
I got AEJ and unfortunately is less sharper therefore i`m selling it
btw i don`t like mfd of this lens - 1,6m.... |
But the AE has excellent 3D... you lose some you win some... |
Now i`m looking for good CZJ 135 3,5 or 135L maybe... _________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/atheist_lenses/
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Nikos
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Sonnar 135 is a very good lens, especially the MM version, whereas the AE is a bit soft wide open.
It is true however that it isn't the top performer in the Contax line so if it did blow away the supermega Canon L lens, what will happen with say the Sonnar 3.5/100? Probably will turn the Canon L to dust! |
Yes, as long as you have a good tripod handy and the time to focus with LiveView.
You can only take handheld photos at 200mm and 1/20 sec. with the Canon.
We, happy owners of the Canon 70-200, are not completely stupid _________________ Νίκος • www.diafragma.gr
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Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
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AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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poilu
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
nice test
my 135 have CA and lack of pop compared to other Contax
I have tried a zoom Apo Leica that was much better at 2.8
but the Leica could not touch my 85 primes or even the 80-200:4
1/20s at 200mm is only useful to capture sleeping mountain _________________ T* |
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
poilu wrote: |
1/20s at 200mm is only useful to capture sleeping mountain |
Hahahahaha!
You put it the best way
In fact, what is the use for a 200mm? Either landscape, or action (moving people, animals etc)
For landscape, the caring photographer uses a tripod.
For action, what good is to shoot shake-free at 1/20, if your subject moves at more than 1/200?
To freeze a moving subject (human and even more so animal) you need at least 1/250 - a shutter speed that is also fast enough to freeze your handshake.
I think the usefulness of image stabilization is overestimated in the photographic communities. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Nikos
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
poilu wrote: |
1/20s at 200mm is only useful to capture sleeping mountain |
It is pretty obvious you have a wife
Anyway, what do you think is a good price for the Contax 80-200 ?
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Nikos
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
Orio wrote: |
poilu wrote: |
1/20s at 200mm is only useful to capture sleeping mountain |
Hahahahaha!
You put it the best way
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Orio, it seems like you never go hiking
When your backpack is more than 12 kg without the photo stuff,
would you also add/carry a heavy tripod ? You cannot follow the others...
I also enjoy street photography at night. But using a tripod makes you both slow and conspicuous.
200mm 1/20 sec handheld
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Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
nkanellopoulos wrote: |
When your backpack is more than 12 kg without the photo stuff,
would you also add/carry a heavy tripod ? You cannot follow the others... |
Tripod does not have to be heavy. There are very lightweight ones.
And, I never go out to photograph in a company of people who don't care about photography. Or, they go their way i go mine, and let's meet at lunch. That's how it works for me. When I photograph I don't want non-photographing people messing around with me, or that I have to follow at all costs, leaving after me untaken photos that I would regret after.
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I also enjoy street photography at night. But using a tripod makes you both slow and conspicuous. |
I don't think you would have had many problems if that motorbike had spotted you
While if instead of a parked motorbike there was a person there, at 1/20 sec you would have the photo of a nice ghostly blur - over a perfectly still background, I'll concede that . _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Nikos
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
Orio wrote: |
I don't think you would have had many problems if that motorbike had spotted you
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Yes, because it is a "sleeping motorbike"
Orio wrote: |
While if instead of a parked motorbike there was a person there, at 1/20 sec you would have the photo of a nice ghostly blur - over a perfectly still background, I'll concede that . |
Unfortunately, you also have to concede that the person would be equally blurred using a tripod |
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poilu
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
nkanellopoulos wrote: |
Anyway, what do you think is a good price for the Contax 80-200 ? |
between 200 and 300 euros
I got the 80-200 in a kit and I use it once a year
joking aside, if I had to buy a zoom it would be something like the Canon 70-300 IS
IS can be useful for video but I don't use this focal enough to justify higher cash _________________ T* |
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
nkanellopoulos wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
I don't think you would have had many problems if that motorbike had spotted you
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Yes, because it is a "sleeping motorbike"
Orio wrote: |
While if instead of a parked motorbike there was a person there, at 1/20 sec you would have the photo of a nice ghostly blur - over a perfectly still background, I'll concede that . |
Unfortunately, you also have to concede that the person would be equally blurred using a tripod |
Yes but I wanted to prove that you can't take that photo with IS - not that I could take it with a tripod _________________ Orio, Administrator
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metallaro1980
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metallaro1980 wrote:
sleeping motorbike with 200mm???
you must try with Planar 1.4/50 and tripod ...
and Plasticity Rulez _________________
Olympus OM: 28 2.8, 35 2.8, 50 1.8 Made in Japan
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Nikos
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
metallaro1980 wrote: |
sleeping motorbike with 200mm???
you must try with Planar 1.4/50 and tripod ...
and Plasticity Rulez |
OK, you made a lot of noise out of a test shot with a motorbike.
How about this?
Handheld at 1/200 with 1.4X
This is both awake and moving (and heavy!)
If I were you, I would not go near it with a 50mm.
I would be afraid of too much "plasticity"
Yes, I know, image stabilization is useless
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Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
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Canon TS-E 17mm f/4, Zeiss 2.8/21 ZE, Zeiss 2/28 Contax, Zeiss 2/35 ZE, Zeiss 1.4/50 Contax, Zeiss 1.4/85 Contax, Zeiss Makro 2/100 ZE,
Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
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AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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TBaker
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TBaker wrote:
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metallaro1980
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metallaro1980 wrote:
Woman portrait till death !!! _________________
Olympus OM: 28 2.8, 35 2.8, 50 1.8 Made in Japan
Contax: 50 1.4, 85 1.4
Zeiss: 135 2.0 Apo-Sonnar ZE
Leica-R: 180 3.4 Apo-Telyt-R (Leitax)
Rollei QBM: 135 2.8 Rolleinar (Leitax), 50 1.4 HFT
Canon: 50 1.8, 40 2.8
M42: Helios 50 2.0, Jupiter-37A, Jupiter-21 200 4.0
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metallaro1980
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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metallaro1980 wrote:
nkanellopoulos wrote: |
metallaro1980 wrote: |
sleeping motorbike with 200mm???
you must try with Planar 1.4/50 and tripod ...
and Plasticity Rulez |
OK, you made a lot of noise out of a test shot with a motorbike.
How about this?
Handheld at 1/200 with 1.4X
This is both awake and moving (and heavy!)
If I were you, I would not go near it with a 50mm.
I would be afraid of too much "plasticity"
Yes, I know, image stabilization is useless
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I think this: if a bear is running to you ...the IS is useless !!!
do you have a shotgun ? _________________
Olympus OM: 28 2.8, 35 2.8, 50 1.8 Made in Japan
Contax: 50 1.4, 85 1.4
Zeiss: 135 2.0 Apo-Sonnar ZE
Leica-R: 180 3.4 Apo-Telyt-R (Leitax)
Rollei QBM: 135 2.8 Rolleinar (Leitax), 50 1.4 HFT
Canon: 50 1.8, 40 2.8
M42: Helios 50 2.0, Jupiter-37A, Jupiter-21 200 4.0
Binocular: Hensoldt & Wetzlar DF 8x30
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