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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:58 pm Post subject: Tele Kominar 135mm f3.5 |
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kuuan wrote:
Ran into a socalled 'Tele Kominar' in a 'junk basket' in a used camera store in Osaka. It's focusring turns not easily but otherwise it seems to be fine.
It looks like this:
( sorry, handheld shots made fast at low light = wide open ):
the writing on top looks like this
It takes quite nice fotos:
( in case anybody is annoyed I post quite big size photos: I upload them to my flickr site for hosting where I can choose 'large' or 'medium' size, and I think the medium is just too small to appreciate the quality )
happy about this find!
cheers,
Andreas _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections
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padiej
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 244 Location: AUSTRIA - Burgenland
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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padiej wrote:
Good hunting!
You have a good hand for select old lenses. Very nice pictures. The Taxis are black in Japan, a contrast to USA. The Crow-Picture is amazing, so unsharp on Top and so sharp in the bottom, this is a good lens.
greetings Peter _________________ Cam: Canon EOS 5D, 50D, 500D, Pentax Ist DL
Lenses on
www.flickr.com/photos/padiej/ |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Lot better what I expected.. Nice lens! I have same with Komura label. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Thank you !
It would be very nice if you could post a close-up of the text and DOF scale while close-focused, so I can compare vs my Soligor lenses.
A used lens bin in Osaka you said ? That sort of place would be a good source of many odd lenses probably never exported. |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
wow Andreas! I don't know about this lens but the shots are superb _________________ T* |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:39 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
padiej wrote: |
Good hunting!
You have a good hand for select old lenses. Very nice pictures. The Taxis are black in Japan, a contrast to USA. The Crow-Picture is amazing, so unsharp on Top and so sharp in the bottom, this is a good lens.
greetings Peter |
thank you Peter, yes me too I like the lens quite a lot. And I start to like the presets more and more!
Attila wrote: |
Lot better what I expected.. Nice lens! I have same with Komura label. |
doesn't look too bad Attila, hey?
luisalegria wrote: |
Thank you !
It would be very nice if you could post a close-up of the text and DOF scale while close-focused, so I can compare vs my Soligor lenses. |
Here you go Luis:
some other visible reasons why it was sold for junk...
luisalegria wrote: |
A used lens bin in Osaka you said ? That sort of place would be a good source of many odd lenses probably never exported. |
Yes, I hope I shall find a few more.
I had offered in my post abt. the 85mm Kominar that I could help members here to find lenses, specially japanese. There was no answer to that, I am afraid that my offer is misunderstood and that maybe some are even not happy about this. Anyway, my offer stands.
poilu wrote: |
wow Andreas! I don't know about this lens but the shots are superb |
Thank you Poilu, please also look at my photos at flickr.
This lionks go direct to my manual lens folder: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections/72157604973031858/
but anybody interested in photos from Japan or a couple of other asian countries may enjoy the other photos as well. ( Strangly, since I started to use the manual lenses my photos get less hits, though I like them..)
these also taken with the Kominar:
cheers,
Andreas _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Thank you Andreas !
It is in some ways similar to my Soligor (same font style, colors) but different in others, such as the device on the DOF scale, and the helical works the other way.
From that source I am interested in Komura items and old Pentax screw-mount items if these are available at low cost. |
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Peterrr
Joined: 25 Jun 2008 Posts: 6
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Peterrr wrote:
Hello Luis,
I needed an adapter for my Komura 200mm 3.5 lens (uni auto) to fit on an m42 adapter to fit on my eos 20D. I thought I had found one and bought it, but it doesn't fit; maybe it is an autodapter. But it is for a m42 screw mount. It has the letters ES. Would you be interested?
Peter |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Welcome Peter! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Hi Peterr,
I could be. What does it look like ? _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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peterm1
Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 224
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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peterm1 wrote:
This lens looks very similar in physical appearance to one of the early versions of the Takumar - the one with the preset mechanism of course!
Many of these early 135s with a f3.5 maximum aperture seem to be excellent performers. This one appears to eb no exception. _________________ PeterM |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
peterm1 wrote: |
This lens looks very similar in physical appearance to one of the early versions of the Takumar - the one with the preset mechanism of course!.. |
yes Peter, it looks almost exactly like the preset Takumar 2.8/105, but the 135 is a bit longer, here the Tak:
finally got the Kominar's stiff focus ring fixed
first 3 pics no PPing besides RAW to jpeg conversion with default settings in Lightroom
wide open:
( bigger: http://u1.ipernity.com/12/31/68/6093168.d157a259.jpg )
f5.6:
( bigger: http://u1.ipernity.com/12/31/67/6093167.b2740870.jpg )
wide open:
( bigger: http://u1.ipernity.com/12/31/66/6093166.73c093dc.1024.jpg )
best greetings,
Andreas _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Hi
Very nice pics again, Andreas.
I saw a sankor 2,8/135 pre set, very similar to your all black komine.
But who know. . . .
Regards, Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
thank you Rino.
I always have been considering this lens to be very good, sharp and I liked it's colors, but due to it's stiff focus ring had not used it much.
Now after these test shots it seems to me that it is remarkably sharp also wide open, what do you think?
best regards,
Andreas _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Andreas, maybe the lens does not matter and in this case it's the photographer who is the determining factor? I like your style and your choice of subjects very much!
(Yes, it's sharp and all, but those are not just lens test pics...) _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
kuuan wrote: |
thank you Rino.
I always have been considering this lens to be very good, sharp and I liked it's colors, but due to it's stiff focus ring had not used it much.
Now after these test shots it seems to me that it is remarkably sharp also wide open, what do you think?
best regards,
Andreas |
I think the same. Very nice lens, sharp and with good colors.
Stiff focus? It's easy to fix. Only that? Or Spotmatic is right?
Several times is our distance to the subject that make to us feel more comfortable and then, that distance makes one lens better to us than others.
That happen to me with the 135 and the 85 mm. I like to be close to the subject, and that circumstance makes me feel better with the 85 mm lens.
Regards, Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
saw that an old thread asking for the 'best, small 3.5/135 lens' had been resurrected recently and by chance, also after some years, I just used the lens that I had recommended there, the Tele Kominar again.
I think it is smaller even than the fabulous Canon LTM both including their respective E mount adapters.
On Sony A7:
ducks.. by andreas, on Flickr
and on NEX5n:
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Brilliant stuff Andreas! _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:15 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Very nice.
I still want more preset lenses, something about them I really like. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
thank you Luis
Lightshow I prefer presets, not only for their second, actual aperture ring to run freely, most usually I just set the preset ring to fully closed down, but also because their aperture ring, just like on most old rangefinder lenses, is located towards the front of the lens. Specially when used, as most of us and I do, with adapters, I find the aperture ring at the front much more easy to locate 'blindly' than those that end up near to the adapter.
more similar stuff ( taken from the same spot as the first 2 above ) on NEX5n ( on APS-C simply for the reach )
ploughing the rice field by andreas, on Flickr _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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