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Attila
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: Tamron SP 17mm f3.5 |
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Attila wrote:
I long await this lens because perhaps the widest non fisheye lens to me what I can afford.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/japenese/Tamron/tamron_sp_17mm_f3_5/
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Very nice, Attila! I would really like to find this lens for a good price... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Hard task not showing much times less than 100 GBP. _________________ -------------------------------
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Yep. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I really like the last picture of this series, not showed here!!
Have you thought about cropping out the house at right and perhaps straightening the horizon?
I think the photo has a lot of potential. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I see nothing on this picture if you do something with that go ahead. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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I see nothing on this picture if you do something with that go ahead. |
I love it, I can't stop looking at it.
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Cheers mate I am glad if you love it , my down to earth programmer eyes still see nothing special on it _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
It has poetry.
I think it skims perfection.
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Flor27
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 1195 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:39 am Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
Orio wrote: |
It has poetry.
I think it skims perfection. |
I think it is because it fall closely in the "third" rule, have well isolated subjects and is a simple to read picture, as for color, all thoses things that don't bother your brain and only interact with deeper sensations. _________________ Switching from M42 to Minolta MD & Contax/Yashica |
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:41 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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Orio wrote: |
It has poetry.
I think it skims perfection. |
I think it is because it fall closely in the "third" rule, |
Because I MADE IT fall closely in the thirds rule
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Flor27
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Flor27 wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
It has poetry.
I think it skims perfection. |
I think it is because it fall closely in the "third" rule, |
Because I MADE IT fall closely in the thirds rule |
To tell you the truth, I haven't see yet the original Attila shot _________________ Switching from M42 to Minolta MD & Contax/Yashica |
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Flor27
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
So now I did, well, I have to say that Orio has a good photographer eye, if one has yet to doubt about it _________________ Switching from M42 to Minolta MD & Contax/Yashica |
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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So now I did, well, I have to say that Orio has a good photographer eye, if one has yet to doubt about it |
Thanks but there is something more to it
First Attila also has good eye, maybe he did not consciously appreciate the scene, but without doubt his instinct did, else he would not have taken the photo
Then, the image is really precious on its own, although I immodestly admit that my cut has enhanced it
Seriously:
- the lateral light gives great relief to the grass. This in turn contrasts with the smooth sky and enhances the perception of "infinite" - by contrast, the sky feels smooth and infinite
- There is a natural colouring gradient in the sky that makes it attractive even if barren
- the single cloud up there is like, nature does perfection, I don't think any painter could have done it better on purpose
- the rusty lamplights give the photograph a warm tone both for colouring and emotionally. Imagine how blah if it was new grey zinc colour.
- there is not only the thirds in the photograph, also the wires are segmented in three, and the rhythm of the segmentation, very dynamic, makes a perceptual contrast with the more rigid thirds division of the photo. Wires give the photo a life without getting too much in the way
- but the most poetical touch is the bend of the lamplight, in what is otherwise a quite rectilinear image design.
The bend connects the natural shape of the cloud with the geometrical shapes of the other elements.
- maybe I have a delirating mind but the head of the lamplight reminds me of an astroship. The bend of the lamplight makes me think of the curve necessary to exit the earth orbit. The two elements sort of push the vision towards the infinite.
Makes also think of 2001 Odissey in the meaning of this sort of slow cosmic harmony, in a photograph that is very quiet, and pushes to meditation.
I'm not much of a believer, but if I had to pick a photograph that makes me feel about the trascendental, the "what's beyond", it's this one.
Like I said, I could look at it for hours and never have enough.
P.S. No, I have not smoked Marijuana
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Russ
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:20 am Post subject: Re: Tamron SP 17mm f3.5 |
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Russ wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I long await this lens because perhaps the widest non fisheye lens to me what I can afford.
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Attilla
About a year ago, I snagged one of these lenses. I heard and read very good things about it. Upon using it, I was not disappointed. It's a very good lens. There are two versions. Which one do you have? Did you get the original lens hood for it?
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:11 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Orio/Ohio
You clearly have the eye, and I think the picture could have been taken by Antonioni. It speaks of "lonely" and "distance" as well as having the lovely assymetry of the thirds.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:12 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Attila
It is far far superior to the Tok equivalent, which is somewhat soft throughout the range.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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I think the picture could have been taken by Antonioni. |
Yes, there is something that can remind of Antonioni. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Tamron SP 17mm f3.5 |
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Attila wrote:
Russ wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
I long await this lens because perhaps the widest non fisheye lens to me what I can afford.
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Attilla
About a year ago, I snagged one of these lenses. I heard and read very good things about it. Upon using it, I was not disappointed. It's a very good lens. There are two versions. Which one do you have? Did you get the original lens hood for it?
Kiron kid |
I didn't know that it has two versions , can you show me link from each of ones. I don't have lens hood. _________________ -------------------------------
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Russ
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: Tamron SP 17mm f3.5 |
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Russ wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Russ wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
I long await this lens because perhaps the widest non fisheye lens to me what I can afford.
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Attilla
About a year ago, I snagged one of these lenses. I heard and read very good things about it. Upon using it, I was not disappointed. It's a very good lens. There are two versions. Which one do you have? Did you get the original lens hood for it?
Kiron kid |
I didn't know that it has two versions , can you show me link from each of ones. I don't have lens hood. |
Attilla
Here is the link ( http://www.adaptall-2.com/lenses/51B.html ). I have the earlier version, with the built in filters. They work quite well. I got lucky, because mine came with the dedicated Tamron lens hood. On occasion, you can find the original lens hood on E-bay, but, they are scarce.
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I guess mine is 151B. _________________ -------------------------------
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Russ
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Russ wrote:
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I guess mine is 151B. |
Attila
How do you like it? Mine is a very good performer. I'll keep my eyes open for the proper lens hood for yours.
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Attila
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:22 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Thank you Russ! I used same time with an Olympus OM 21mm f3.5 , Olympus had better color rendering, but 4mm quite a lot difference especially on 2x crop camera like mine. Another thing what is important I have a Nikon FA film camera so logical to use Tamron SP, but I like so much Olympus OM 21mm f3.5. I need to sell something I suppose I will keep both and I let them go my other lenses like CZJ Jena 20mm lenses and Nikkor UD 20mm f3.5.Tamrons is pretty good one and practical to me and Oly simple superb. _________________ -------------------------------
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