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hinnerker
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 929 Location: Germany near Kiel
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: Summilux 1.4/50mm, Leitz Wetzlar |
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hinnerker wrote:
Here i want to introduce my Leitz Wetzlar Summilux 1.4/50mm MK II
The lens performs at the very high Leitz standard in mechanic and optics.
Heavy build with a weight of 451 grams (Adapter to EOS included).
The mechanical precision is very good and the optical schema
8 Elements in 7 Groups.
The aperture is build with 6 blades, but gives a nice bokeh in my opininon.
Thats one of the lenses which gives you the lovely catseye effect and the so called "Swirly Bokeh"
First the "Catseyes"..
Aperture stops are 1.4-2-2.8-4-5.6-8-11-16, half f/stops assigned.
The filter diameter is E55 (55mm) and the lens has a build in hood.
Sample of the "Swirly Bokeh"
and a crop out of it...
The sharpness is fantastic. At f/2, the lens outperforms my Summicron for sure and gives me much better results.
Leitz didnt recommanded to use the lens in the nearfield, so they didnt make an Elpro for that lens. But i think you can use the lens also for that...
And a crop from that.
The Summilux is a very good lens for available light situations
Highlights in the OOF are very clean and the lens can handle lights in the image nearly perfect.
In daylight situations.. with reflecting metallic surfaces..
And a crop from that image
Its an expensive lens also second hand, but IMHO its on of the bests..
(All shots taken on EOS 5 D most of them at 1.4 !! No further proscessing, just in DPP converted to JPG)
Cheers
Henry _________________ some light-painting lens stuff..
... and an EOS 5D MKII
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I also have this lens, but it hasn't been "love at first use" for me, although it give for sure great images.
Maybe I still have to use it in the right situation. I didn't use it too much, and the most important occasion was for a glamour/nude session with studio lights. I think natural light is probably better for this lens. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
"Leica" - 'nuff said. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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hinnerker
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 929 Location: Germany near Kiel
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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hinnerker wrote:
Orio wrote: |
I also have this lens, but it hasn't been "love at first use" for me, although it give for sure great images.
Maybe I still have to use it in the right situation. I didn't use it too much, and the most important occasion was for a glamour/nude session with studio lights. I think natural light is probably better for this lens. |
For me its the other way around. I didnt use this lens til now for studio work, only in natural light..
And there, this lens is great..
another shot wide open..
A friend of mine is sculptor... one of his works.. Summilux at f/1.4 or f/2
(dont remember exactly)
Cheers
Henry _________________ some light-painting lens stuff..
... and an EOS 5D MKII
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I am waiting to use it more before I take a final decision, but for the moment, I think I prefer my Summicron. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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hinnerker
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 929 Location: Germany near Kiel
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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hinnerker wrote:
Orio wrote: |
I am waiting to use it more before I take a final decision, but for the moment, I think I prefer my Summicron. |
For me also it did take a bit of time to find out, which one i should prefer.
I did work with near all Summicron R Version from 1968 till this one.
I did own several Summicrons and two Summilux lenses.
Later on, i decided to let my Summicrons go, because the sharpness of the Summi in the Corners at f/2 IMHO is nearly the same if not better. The speed advantage for natural light conditions in addition with the Bokeh, lets me decide this.
Stopped down, there are no really big differences in both. Maybe the Cron is less vignetting at 2 and 2.8. But the behavior for example in Nightshoots with lights in the szene, its much better for my opinion.
In the close up area, the Summilux give astonishing effects with this "SWIRL". Also the Catseyes are nice to see under some circumstance the can add a bit of the BIOTAR Feeling in the Image.
Cheers
Henry _________________ some light-painting lens stuff..
... and an EOS 5D MKII
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10471 Location: Greece
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
nice lens and I read it have great flare resistance |
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
The Summilux is a great lens, my everyday-on-the-camera-one.
I heard very good things about the Summicron, and I decided to give it a try, but I really did not find advantages over the Summilux, except maybe less weight and smaller size. So I decided, that I will resell the Summicron again and will stick to the S'lux.
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
What a spectacular lens and very fine samples of what it can do
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
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C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Bruce
Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 842 Location: Boston, Ma USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote:
Geeeez, that Poppy flower looks to bust out all over. I can hear the little bomb ticking.
Nice capture! _________________ Digital: Canon 40d & 5DmkII, Film: Hasselblad 203fe/Zeiss 80/2.8 cfe
Adapters for EOS: Cy; M42; Zenit39; Exakta; LeicaR; OlympusOM; PK; Nikon; Rollei35; Retina; Adaptal; P-6 |
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
Very impressive pictures - it is indeed a nice lens. I had a chrome one in the early 70s (serial number low 2 millions) but changed it for a close-focus Summicron because at the time I fancied having the nearer focusing facility and didn't do much available light photography. Back then, nobody - but nobody - used f1.4 apertures in bright light. "Bokeh" hadn't been invented .
At the time I only used Kodachrome II and I was convinced the Summilux gave a more "punchy" image at apertures wider than f4 but for me "the balance of virtues" tipped the scales in favour of the Summicron - at apertures smaller than f4 there seemed no difference, it focused closer (which suited my photography then) and the loss of one f-stop was something I could live with. I think the weight was about the same, maybe the Summicron was actually a bit heavier when you add in the close-up viewfinder unit.
If I could have afforded both, I would have kept them. _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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larsr
Joined: 25 Jun 2009 Posts: 272 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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larsr wrote:
I love the cool bokeh :) and seems to be really sharp, judging by the poppy flower picture. Congrats! _________________ Lars
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DSLR: Nikon D200
SLR: Nikon FA, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Zeiss Ikon Icarex 35TM
35mm: Voigtl�nder Vitoret
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M42
Misc: Vivitar 28/2.5, Chinon 28/2.8, Cosina Auto Cosinon 50/1.8, Revue Auto Revuenon 50/1.8, Mamiya 50/2, Auto Flex 55/1.7, Cosina Cosinon 135/2.8 MC, Vivitar 135/2.8, Petri 200/3.5 CC Auto
Zeiss: Carl Zeiss (Ikon) Tessar 50/2.8, CZJ Tessar 50/2.8, CZJ Pancolar Electric 50/1.8 MC, CZJ Biotar 58/2 T, CZJ Sonnar MC S 135/3.5
Asahi-Pentax: SMC-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 105/2.8, SMC-Takumar 135/3.5
USSR: Mir-1 37/2.8 (1958 GP), Helios 44-2 58/2
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
Just managed to catch this nice Taunus 17m with the Summilux few minutes ago. Noticed it standing in the neighbourhood. Hurried back with my camera and caught him just in time before leaving.
Sigma SD14 + Summilux 1,4/50 #293....
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
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larsr
Joined: 25 Jun 2009 Posts: 272 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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larsr wrote:
What a beautiful car :)
My grandfather used to have one like this when he was young.. _________________ Lars
Bodies:
DSLR: Nikon D200
SLR: Nikon FA, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Zeiss Ikon Icarex 35TM
35mm: Voigtl�nder Vitoret
Nikkor MF
24/2.8K AI'd, 28/2.8 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 Micro, 35-70/3.5 AIS, 85/1.8K AI'd, 100/2.8 Series E, 105/2.5 AI, 105/2.5 AIS, 135/3.5 AI, Nikkor 180/2.8 ED AIS, 200/4-Q AI'd, 300/4.5-H AI'd
M42
Misc: Vivitar 28/2.5, Chinon 28/2.8, Cosina Auto Cosinon 50/1.8, Revue Auto Revuenon 50/1.8, Mamiya 50/2, Auto Flex 55/1.7, Cosina Cosinon 135/2.8 MC, Vivitar 135/2.8, Petri 200/3.5 CC Auto
Zeiss: Carl Zeiss (Ikon) Tessar 50/2.8, CZJ Tessar 50/2.8, CZJ Pancolar Electric 50/1.8 MC, CZJ Biotar 58/2 T, CZJ Sonnar MC S 135/3.5
Asahi-Pentax: SMC-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 105/2.8, SMC-Takumar 135/3.5
USSR: Mir-1 37/2.8 (1958 GP), Helios 44-2 58/2
Pentacon/Meyer: Pentacon 29/2.8 MC, Pentacon 50/1.8 MC Electric, Meyer G�rlitz Oreston 50/1.8, Meyer G�rlitz Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 200/4
Nikkor AF
50/1.8 D, 60/2.8 Micro, 55-200/4-5.6 G VR, 70-300/4-5.6 ED, 18-70/3.5-4.5 G
Wantlist
Nikkor 105/1.8, Nikkor 135/2
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
larsr wrote: |
What a beautiful car
My grandfather used to have one like this when he was young.. |
They don't build cars like this anymore. It's a shame.
I often think, it would be great to have modern technology, such ad hybrid drive, in a shape like this. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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