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Steinheil Culminar 4.5/135 M42
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:30 pm    Post subject: Steinheil Culminar 4.5/135 M42 Reply with quote
My latest purchase:

Click here to see on Ebay

I was after this lens for a long time, but could only find it in Exakta mount, or in Japan or USA. Now that I have ordered an Exakta adapter, I searched again for it, found a fungused Exakta copy and this M42 copy that looks mint. The price could be better, but well it's Christmas time after all.

This lens seems to be popular in Asia. In fact, what made me decide to look for it were these images:

http://nekonomestill.blog2.fc2.com/index.php?q=Steinheil+M%26uuml%3Bnchen+Culminar+135mm+F4.5

I loved the combination of sharpness and bokeh, I will let you know bout my results when I get the lens.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Congrats, Orio. It seems to be a nice lens!.
Best regards,
Jes.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Congratulations!

Did I read correctly? You have ordered an EXA-EOS-adapter?


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
nice piece of metal, look beautiful


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:

Did I read correctly? You have ordered an EXA-EOS-adapter?


Yes, this one, chipped for FA:

Click here to see on Ebay

The price was nice, considering that until not long ago these adapters costed more than 100 Euros non-FA-chipped.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have faster lens f2.8 from this , very sharp superb lens!


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
I have faster lens f2.8 from this , very sharp superb lens!


I know, I have checked your archive, what do you think? Wink


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
LucisPictor wrote:

Did I read correctly? You have ordered an EXA-EOS-adapter?


Yes, this one, chipped for FA:

Click here to see on Ebay

The price was nice, considering that until not long ago these adapters costed more than 100 Euros non-FA-chipped.
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Cheers! I am eager to hear if it works allright. Perhaps, I also will buy one...Oh here we go again! Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:

Cheers! I am eager to hear if it works allright.


Me too, but I have a slight problem: an Exakta adapter, but no Exakta lens to be adapter Rolling Eyes


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am glad you got good info before bid!


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, most EXA lenses have the little button/handle at the side. And those don't work with this adapter, so the seller says.

But you should find a nice EXA lens without this handle on ebay for a good price. Look for a CZJ Tessar 2.8/50.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This lens is not semi-automatic lens, normal manual lens it will works with you adapter without any difficulties.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
I am glad you got good info before bid!


I will send samples so you can complete your Steinheil folder.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you!!


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:
Yes, most EXA lenses have the little button/handle at the side. And those don't work with this adapter, so the seller says.


Attila says it?'s possible to remove the bulge part - am I understanding correctly Attila?


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes possible.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have done this too, although I later refitted the mechanism.

Leaves a hole in the mount that you need to cover up though.

I can supply instructions on how to do it.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
bob955i wrote:

Leaves a hole in the mount that you need to cover up though.
I can supply instructions on how to do it.


Thanks Bob.
I think I will try first with a "normal" Exakta lens.
if the adapter behaves correctly as the seller claims (infinite focus and all), then I may try other exakta lenses including some bulge ones. I'll call for help if needed.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK Orio - by the way, the mod is completely reversible albeit very fiddly in the case of the refitting of the stop-down actuating arm tension spring.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Remove only if necessary I am not sure it is necessary. It works fine on my E-1


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
@Attila: It's the front bulge on the Canon pentaprism housing that causes the problems - it sticks out quite a bit in the case of the 5D.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ah I see this is not good news..


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
bob955i wrote:
@Attila: It's the front bulge on the Canon pentaprism housing that causes the problems - it sticks out quite a bit in the case of the 5D.


Really?
On my 5D I can mount the Helios-40 with it's awkward tripod mount - something I can not do on the 400D.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
When I got my M42-EOS adapter, the second thing I tried with it after the first and most obvious use was to test fit an Exakta lens to it, specifically one with the bulge, and mounted as it would be on an Exakta with the bulge at 2 o'clock to ensure the lens markings were aligned at the top.

When rotating the lens to simulate fitting, the bulge didn't clear the 5D's pentaprism and that was at the normal M42 register distance.

Since the Exakta register is 0.7mm less, the bulge will definitely not clear the prism unless it is removed.


PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The lens has arrived. It is one of my most beautiful lenses aesthetically.
As for performance, it is very similar to the Trioplan, as it is also a triplet lens.
This means slightly flaring wide open and quite sharp stopped down.
Here's a sample image at f/8, whole resized:



And a crop of 100%, not sharpened:



I will need to build a cardboard hood, as the lens does not have a filter thread and the single (or perhaps no-) coating leaves way open to large flaring in difficult light position.

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