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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject: Sankyo Koki Komura f=80mm 1:1.8 product photos |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Let me start with the following statement: for a collector me it's VERY HARD to resist a lens that comes in such a pristine shape, it looks like it just left the factory... Quality like that is not common nowadays; I would not compare a Canon L lens with the fine workmanship of the Komura.
I hope you like my product shots.
_________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
What a burlesque/strip show You really know how to get a guy going...
Beautiful shooting of a beauty. _________________ -Jussi
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Imagine what would happen if I used these photos for an eBay auction... The end price would hit the roof. _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57851 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Spotmatic wrote: |
Imagine what would happen if I used these photos for an eBay auction... The end price would hit the roof. |
exactly _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16553 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
So you collet 85mm lenses?? A very nice find though and well made shots. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
So you collet 85mm lenses?? A very nice find though and well made shots. |
Thanks, and yes, I'm getting more and more fast 'portrait' teles. Don't know why, but this just grew on me. I seem to like the focal length... _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16553 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Well, I know about "lens addiction" quite well... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:05 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Very effective product pictures and a very lovely lens. I really like Komuras, and that one is particularly nice.
I am green with envy ! _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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taunusreiter
Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 127
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:40 am Post subject: |
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taunusreiter wrote:
Very nice example, Spotmatic. I also like your wideopen childs portraits taken with them.
The 80/1.8 is quite a rare lens, yours is the first "all black" I've seen so far, most are zebra style. The hood seems to be particulary rare.
With all your boxes and stuff, was there a paper including the tech specs or lens diagram?
SNs seems to be in a small range from what I've noticed.
4550123 Nikon RF
4550186 Nikon RF
4550207 Nikon RF
3550238 Nikon RF
3550096 M42 _________________ My flickr Gallery
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:47 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Nice pictures - and lenses! - Frank! Thanks for posting them.
taunusreiter wrote: |
Very nice example, Spotmatic. I also like your wideopen childs portraits taken with them.
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Thanks, I like them also.
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The 80/1.8 is quite a rare lens, yours is the first "all black" I've seen so far, most are zebra style. The hood seems to be particulary rare.
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Given the fact that the lens case is designed to contain the lens with the hood, could it be possible that it was originally sold with the hood?
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With all your boxes and stuff, was there a paper including the tech specs or lens diagram?
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Unfortunately, no. No papers of any kind were included.
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SNs seems to be in a small range from what I've noticed.
4550123 Nikon RF
4550186 Nikon RF
4550207 Nikon RF
3550238 Nikon RF
3550096 M42 |
My M42 copy has s/n 3550275. So the batches seem to be quite small. _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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taunusreiter
Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 127
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:27 am Post subject: |
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taunusreiter wrote:
My lens case is smaller than yours pictured, and included the finder in a separate compartment. So except if the hood can be stored vice versa, it may be not delivered with the RF lenses.
Neblette published a lens diagram of the 80/1.8, so he must have had sources. I'm still not sure why Sankyo Kohki ceased production of this lens so soon (or why it wasn't mentioned in the 1964 catalog) when they even made the step altering the mount from RF (Nikon and Leica) to SLR/M42. After all, M42 lenses are a lot easier to build than RF where precision in the coupling mechanism is needed, and if you miss it, every customer will return the lens or claim your lens to be a dog. Maybe the best assumption is they ceased it for sake of selling the newly launched 85/1.4 - different to the 105mm lens class which they run in a multitude of speeds. _________________ My flickr Gallery
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darosk
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 120 Location: Kota Kinabalu
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:42 am Post subject: |
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darosk wrote:
Oh my! Such a beautiful lens!!! I love it! _________________ Daros K.
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
taunusreiter wrote: |
Maybe the best assumption is they ceased it for sake of selling the newly launched 85/1.4 - different to the 105mm lens class which they run in a multitude of speeds. |
That's a very good explanation. All in all there shouldn't be more than a few hundreds of the 80/1.8 produced. The M42 version being more rare (the M42 version is completely different: pre-set, black focusing ring, finer knurls, focusing in opposite direction. Only the optical design should be the same).
One question though: is the original Ernostar design also soft wide open? _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
darosk wrote: |
Oh my! Such a beautiful lens!!! I love it! |
It's a work of art! _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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taunusreiter
Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 127
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:52 am Post subject: |
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taunusreiter wrote:
Spotmatic wrote: |
One question though: is the original Ernostar design also soft wide open? |
It's a 1920's design
I'm sure Erich Salomon was happy to get sharp pictures at all in the dark conference rooms hand held with the maximum 25 ASA speed films. If they were too soft, he easily compensates it using hard gradation paper in the lab.
Different to the great amount of later Ernostar type designs of the 60's and 70's (even the 100/1.8 Komura made themself) the 80/1.8 isn't optimized for short size. It's a lot longer than the Sonnar-type Nikkor 85/2 (in the background of my photo). This counts as an argument that's a truly "oldfashioned" Ernostar... _________________ My flickr Gallery
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2106 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Very nice product shot and the lens itself. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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