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padiej
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 Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:23 am Post subject: REVUENON-SPEZIAL 1:2.8 f=35mm Made in Japan |
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padiej wrote:
Hallo!
I got a package from eastern germany. Beside a Jena was this lens. This is my third Revuenon (28mm, 35mm, 50mm), all are produced in Japan for Revue (a affiliated company of Quelle, a mail-order business).
The Quality Level is different, this 35mm is good.
I was surprised about the sharpness and contrast.
Testpictures follow
regards Peter
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:32 am Post subject: |
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padiej wrote:
Testpicture - A school in Eisenstadt - Burgenland - Austria
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http://www.mediaarea.de/upload/download.php?file=3d395504a4e3fbd775719bf0f57c656a
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: |
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padiej wrote:
Another full size picture:
http://www.mediaarea.de/upload/download.php?file=432cd747e9e25ffe7e843033421257ab
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Please give me a feedback obout the quality, I give this lens 60% of 100%.
On Ebay is a flectogon 35/2,4 about 82€.
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330231357236&ssPageName=STRK:MEBI:IT&ih=014
Should I try ore wait for another?
respectfully Peter
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:17 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
congrats Peter, your list grow fast
the border are soft but you didn't tell the aperture used
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padiej
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padiej wrote:
Allways f 5,6, sorry, I forgot.
The borders are soft, I think too, but why, the crop is 1,5?
The right side seems softer, perhaps a decentrated lens, the mechanik is well used.
If I get a package of different lenses, 50% are damaged (arperture defect ore mechanic worse), this lens was for using, now on the limit.
I can´t find a list from revue-lenses and their history. I am searching for a good Flektogon or Meyer-Görlitz in the 35mm kategorie.
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Attila wrote:
Take a Flek ...
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
| padiej wrote: |
The borders are soft, I think too, but why, the crop is 1,5? |
Because the lens is... well... hmm...
So if you find it soft at x1.5, imagine on full frame...
Best price/performance ratio in the moderate wide angle department, the following should all be around tthe 30-60 Euros range:
- Yashica ML
- Tamron
from 60 to 100
- perhaps Flektogon 2.8/35 if you can find a copy not too expensive.
If you can go to 100 Eur or higher (up to 150):
- FLektogon 2.4/35
- Distagon 2.8/35
- Nikkor 2/35
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
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| padiej wrote: |
The borders are soft, I think too, but why, the crop is 1,5? |
Because the lens is... well... hmm... |
Indeed. I had two copies of this lens and I did not really like them.
That's why I was surprised when you wrote that you think this lens it good.
It is really cheap, so to test if you like to shoot with a 35mm, it's perfect.
But there are so many excellent 35mm lenses out there that you really should try to find a better one.
My recommendations:
Nikkor-O 2.0/35 or Leica Elmarit-R 2.8/35.
But these lenses will set you back a little, and since you shoot with Pentax, I am not sure if you can use them
In M42 these lenses are really recommendable (and very affordable):
MIR-1B 2.8/37 or Asahi Takumar 3.5/35.
I also have an M42 Soligor 2.8/35 which is much better than your Revuenon. I am thinking about selling it (because having the Nikkor and the Leica I will not use it often).
Do you want to buy it?
Or perhaps you should try to find a Pentax-A 35mm lens...
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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padiej wrote:
Thank You!
Now I understand the level of revuenon, this lens is to unsharp by the borders,
i have a Pentax M35/2,8, like new, a Test will follow.
So I get a feeling for lenses, I am a beginner, thank´s for helping me.
regards Peter
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Eugen Mezei
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Eugen Mezei wrote:
I own this lens myself and I was also surprised about his sharpness and contrast. I use it with Leica film.
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estudleon wrote:
Hi. Yes, your copy produces very soft corners. The recomendation about the elmarit is OK, the nikkor is OK too. In M42I have the 2,4 flektagon 35 mm.
It's really a good lensSharp and contrast. Nice performer. Best F/ 5,6, 8 and 11.
If you have a konica body, try the hexanon 35 2,8. It's very similar of the leica lens. It's OK. Good luck. |
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Attila wrote:
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Eugen Mezei wrote:
Köszi Attila. Ugy mar reg olvasok itt, csak eddig nem volt hozzaszolnivalom.
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Attila wrote:
 I thought you are Hungarian from name.I would ask to be sure, but from above sentences it is clear
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Ingo wrote:
Hello Peter,
this lens was made by Mamiya. I have the original one Mamiya/Sekor 2,8/35.
This is a sharp lens with high contrast, maybe the bokeh is a little disappointing.
Ingo
Bokeh f2.8
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padiej
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:20 am Post subject: |
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padiej wrote:
Your lens looks different to the auto-revuenon. The blades are the same, this corners are characteristic.
I will try the lens again, now, I want made a page on flick, to put all informations of lenses together.
schöne Grüsse Peter
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Eugen Mezei
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Eugen Mezei wrote:
The Mamiya's front lens seems to be not buried so deep behind the front of the lens as the Revuenons. I suspected from the time I got my first photos with this (Revuenon) lens, that part of the high contrast is explained by the good shading of the front part.
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Aykman wrote:
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Eugen Mezei
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Eugen Mezei wrote:
@Aykman: So you think/are sure this lens is Mamiya?
@padijei: Are the 28 and the 50 mm looking the same (I mean the barrel, the engravings, etc.) like the 35 mm? I often see the 28 and 50 mm Revuenon in the same style the 35mm and was tempted to buy them. (I am very happy with the 35 mm version.) When you are saying the 28 and 50 mm are far behind the 35 mm do you mean the same style lenses or some other Revuenon lens looking totally different? (They have another line where these focals appear but they look totally different, clearly another manufacturer.) |
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Pancolart wrote:
Sadly not only Japanese produced for Revue but Koreans too. Especially first years were pretty bad. This lens might be good for macro.
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