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poilu



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunshine wrote:
I hope you are happy with this one

Yes I am quite happy with the results.
My last try on negative was disastrous with most oof and this series look more promising.
Many here shots film and we must all push in this direction
Digital is a bad drug and we miss a great part of photography

Thanks Ron, Bill and Mike

Yes Bruce, it was a colored candy

Cosmin wrote:
wide an fast lenses can create that 3D like effect

I think film help a lot for 3D effect.
3D is almost always present with film where in digital it is more a matter of luck to get it.
Fast lenses can create nice atmosphere as long as the bokeh is nice.
The distagon is very good and even a missed focus is usable where other lenses would give unpleasant result
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poilu wrote:

Cosmin wrote:
wide an fast lenses can create that 3D like effect

I think film help a lot for 3D effect.
3D is almost always present with film where in digital it is more a matter of luck to get it.


This is because a lot of photographers don't fully "develop" digital files and are happy with in camera Jpgs (which are the "polaroids" of digital) or simple raw conversion.

For example the AA filter of a digital camera lowers heavily the microcontrast of an image and this has to be recovered in post production.

Digital is not a drug, it's more a beast that needs to be tamed.
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CZJ m42-Exakta: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Pancolar 50/2, Biotar 58/2, Biotar 75/1.5, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 135/4, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Flektogon 65/2.8, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Orestegon 29/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Orestegor 300/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5, Tele Xenar 200/4
Russians: Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Industar-61 50/2.8, Helios 44 58/2, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Helios 40 85/1.5, Jupiter 9 85/2, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schacht Travegon 35/3.5, Schacht Travenon 135/4.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 50/1.4, S-Takumar 55/1.8, S-Takumar 55/2, Steinheil Quinar 135/2.8, Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5, Vivitar 135/2.8, Voigtlander Ultron 50/1.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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poilu



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is the conversion with silverfast, a more competent software
it take directly raw file and need only few steps to tune
maybe more saturation would help but this is the default one
the vuescan version look kitsch but experimentation is always worth Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice !!!
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Katastrofo



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
Very nice !!!


Yes, you are! Laughing
(Thought I'd do a Jules-type post. Wink )

Poilu, would like to see your bellows setup for taking pics of these negs.

Bill
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill wrote:
Poilu, would like to see your bellows setup for taking pics of these negs

I use a contax bellow but any bellow is ok
The negative could even be photographed on a light table



here is a sample


& 100% crop not sharpened, no noise reduction or anything


of course it is a bellow and every magnification is possible
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool setup, Poilu!

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