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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:02 am Post subject: Porst Tele MC Auto 135 mm 1:1.8 |
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WolverineX wrote:
Does anyone have experience with this lens? What's itching me to go for this lens is that it would be in effect 270mm tele on my Oly e-520 with 1.8 aperture
also can someone tell me how many stops lens loses when using 2x teleconverter?
http://freenet-homepage.de/stauber/mamiya-nc/m42_porst_135_1.8.htm _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
Wow, a 135/1.8 by Porst. Depending on the price, I wouldn't hesitate for a second
Regarding a teleconverter, I believe the convention is you double the f-stop number, so it would be the equivalent of f3.6. _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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mflex-on
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:45 am Post subject: |
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mflex-on wrote:
I know this lens, got it from my father. I sold it to finance my first "new" manual lenses.
My father said: this is not good.
And so it was: full of halos and koma, very weak full open (aka portrait lens). Plenty of CA. Or to say it in other words: "very special". |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:45 am Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
rawhead wrote: |
Wow, a 135/1.8 by Porst. Depending on the price, I wouldn't hesitate for a second |
current price is 2299 kuna (that's 315€ or 442$, and it won't go up because it's in classifieds not an auction site)
rawhead wrote: |
Regarding a teleconverter, I believe the convention is you double the f-stop number, so it would be the equivalent of f3.6. |
so that would make it 540mm 3.6 _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
That's pretty expensive for something you may not even be able to use wide open anyway _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:51 am Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
mflex-on wrote: |
And so it was: full of halos and koma, very weak full open (aka portrait lens). Plenty of CA. Or to say it in other words: "very special". |
well off course it would , with 82mm diameter of the front element and 1.8 aperture too much light would go into it making it "very weak full open", so you stop it down during the daylight, and when light is gone , use it wide open in low light and at night _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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MF-addicted
Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 803 Location: Stuttgart (Germany)
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:18 am Post subject: |
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MF-addicted wrote:
I have got the Sigma 1.8/135 and in bright sunlight you see a lot of CAs and Halos. But 1.8 is not for bright light
When you stop down to 2.8 it is crisp and nice. Ideal for portaits wide open or stopped down in the shade or cloudy sky.
In low light it is perfect and the low contrast can be adjusted via postprocess.
One of my favourite ANTI-WRINKLE portrait lenses - it smoothes wrikles with the result of a baby skin. _________________
EOS 5D MK II, EOS 5D Classic, EOS 400D --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Canon FD to EOS converted: FD 1,4/24 asph, FD 2,8/300 L
Carl Zeiss Jena:Pancolar 2/50, black Biotar 2/5,8cm 17bl., slim Biotar 1,5/7,5cm 18bl., Pancolar 1,8/80mm, Sonnar 3,5/135, Triotar 4/135
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 4/18T*, Distagon 1,4/35 HFT, Planar 1,4/50 T*, Vario-Sonnar 3,4/35-70 T*,Vario-Sonnar 4,5-5,6/100-300 T*
Leitz: Elmarit-R 2.8/28 E55 II, Summicron-R 35 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2.8/35 E55 II, Summicron-R 2/50 Wetzlar I, Macro Elmarit-R 2.8/60 I, Summicron-R 2/90 E55 I, Elmarit-R 2,8/90 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2,8/135 I, Elmarit-R 2.8/180 Wetzlar E67 II, Vario Elmar 4/70-210 E60, MR Telyt-R 8/500
Schneider: Xenar 2.8/50
Russian: Industar 50-2, Industar 61,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm, MC 3M-5CA 8/500
Meyer: Pentacon 3,5/30, Domiplan 2,8/50, Trioplan 2,9/50, Trioplan 3,5/75, Trioplan 2,8/100, Orestor 2,8/135mm, Orestegon 4/200
ISCO: Westron 2,8/35, Westron 3,5/35, Tele-Westanar 3,5/135, Tele-Westanar 4/180
Yashica: ML 15, ML 21, ML 24, ML 28, ML 35, ML 100/3.5 Macro,
Nikon: Nikkor AI 2,0/24, Nikkor AIS 2,0/28, Nikkor Ai 1,8/50, Nikkor-P (Sonnar) 2,5/105 silver, Nikkor-P (Gauss) 2,5/105 black
Steinheil Cassar 3,5-4,5/75 VL, Quinar 3,5/85, Culminar 4,5/105, Culminar 4,5/135, Auto-D Tele Quinar 2,8/135
Tomioka Tomioka - Cosinon 1,2/55, Tomioka - Revuenon 1,4/55
Voigtländer: Septon 2/50
Others: Officine Galileo Ingra 3,5/5cm, Wilon 4,5/75, Dallmeyer 4,5/4", Bonotar 4,5/105,
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:35 am Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
I have this lens (Spiraton label). The lens is better at f/1.8 than some regarded 50mm lenses at f/1.2 or some 80mm lenses at f/1.8, so it's very subjective.
It's hard to focus with it, because DOF is extremely shallow and many shots can be wasted. But if you focus properly, the results aren't bad.
Check the first picture:
http://forum.mflenses.com/common-flowers-t17435.html
It doesn't make sense to use this lens stopped down, because it doesn't improve performance very much (any slow 135mm lens will be better at f/4). But it's a good tool for low-light situation or bokeh shots. _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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MF-addicted
Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 803 Location: Stuttgart (Germany)
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:43 am Post subject: |
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MF-addicted wrote:
Found some bright light samples from my Sigma XQ 1.8/135 with 1.8
Sample A
Crop1
Crop2
Sample B
Crop 1
Crop 2
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Canon FD to EOS converted: FD 1,4/24 asph, FD 2,8/300 L
Carl Zeiss Jena:Pancolar 2/50, black Biotar 2/5,8cm 17bl., slim Biotar 1,5/7,5cm 18bl., Pancolar 1,8/80mm, Sonnar 3,5/135, Triotar 4/135
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 4/18T*, Distagon 1,4/35 HFT, Planar 1,4/50 T*, Vario-Sonnar 3,4/35-70 T*,Vario-Sonnar 4,5-5,6/100-300 T*
Leitz: Elmarit-R 2.8/28 E55 II, Summicron-R 35 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2.8/35 E55 II, Summicron-R 2/50 Wetzlar I, Macro Elmarit-R 2.8/60 I, Summicron-R 2/90 E55 I, Elmarit-R 2,8/90 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2,8/135 I, Elmarit-R 2.8/180 Wetzlar E67 II, Vario Elmar 4/70-210 E60, MR Telyt-R 8/500
Schneider: Xenar 2.8/50
Russian: Industar 50-2, Industar 61,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm, MC 3M-5CA 8/500
Meyer: Pentacon 3,5/30, Domiplan 2,8/50, Trioplan 2,9/50, Trioplan 3,5/75, Trioplan 2,8/100, Orestor 2,8/135mm, Orestegon 4/200
ISCO: Westron 2,8/35, Westron 3,5/35, Tele-Westanar 3,5/135, Tele-Westanar 4/180
Yashica: ML 15, ML 21, ML 24, ML 28, ML 35, ML 100/3.5 Macro,
Nikon: Nikkor AI 2,0/24, Nikkor AIS 2,0/28, Nikkor Ai 1,8/50, Nikkor-P (Sonnar) 2,5/105 silver, Nikkor-P (Gauss) 2,5/105 black
Steinheil Cassar 3,5-4,5/75 VL, Quinar 3,5/85, Culminar 4,5/105, Culminar 4,5/135, Auto-D Tele Quinar 2,8/135
Tomioka Tomioka - Cosinon 1,2/55, Tomioka - Revuenon 1,4/55
Voigtländer: Septon 2/50
Others: Officine Galileo Ingra 3,5/5cm, Wilon 4,5/75, Dallmeyer 4,5/4", Bonotar 4,5/105,
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KhanX
Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 430 Location: Bangkok, Thailand, München, Göttingen, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:54 am Post subject: |
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KhanX wrote:
I don't have Porst 135/1.8 but I have Sigma 135mm f1.8. It works great.
f1.8
f2.8
_________________ Camera : Leica M8, Sony Nex5, Sigma SD14, Canon 5D, Olympus E-1, Panasonic DMC L1, Pentax K10D Grand Prix, Nikon D1X, Contax RTS III, Contax 167MT, Exakta RTL1000, Minolta X-700, Canon T90, Canon F-1, Pentacon Six TL
Lens :
Tele : Canon FD 300mm f2.8 s.s.c. fluorite, Mamiya 645 500mm f5.6, Pentacon 500mm f5.6, Sigma APO 300mm f4 macro, Nikkor Reflex C 500mm f8, Canon FD 200mm f2.8 s.s.c., Rubinar 300mm f4.5 mirror
Macro : Vivitar Series 1 90mm f2.8, Vivitar VMC 100mm f2.8 Macro, Panagor PMC 90mm f2.8, Edicar 90mm f2.8 Macro, Nikon Micro 55mm f3.5, Takumar 50mm f4 Macro, Nikon Non AI 55mm f3.5 Micro, SMC Takumar 100mm f4 macro, Canon FD 100mm f4 Macro, Canon FD 200mm f4 Macro, Volna-9 50mm f2.8
Short tele : Pentacon Six 120mm f2.8, Carl Zeiss Contax T* 100mm f2, Meyer optik Trioplan 100MM F2.8, Porst 135mm f1.8, Sigmatel ys 135mm f1.8, Schneider 135mm f3.5, Makinon 135mm f3.5, Komura 135mm f3.5, Hexanon 100mm f2.8, Schneider Variogon 80-240mm 4.5, Schneider 135mm f4
Normal : Canon 50mm f0.95, Schneider 50mm f0.95, Hexanon 57mm f1.2, Hexanon 40mm f1.8, Taylor hobson 50mm f1.8, Cooke Kinetal 50mm f1.8, Canon EF 28mm f2.8, Leica 14-50mm f2.8-3.5 Mega O.I.S., Carl Zeiss Contax Distagon 18mm f4, Carl Zeiss Contax Planar T* 50mm f1.4, Carl Zeiss Contax 35mm f1.4, Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm f3.5-5.6 Macro, Yashica 35mm f2.8, Helios 44-2/58, Helios 85mm f1.5, Pentax SMC-M 50mm f1.4, Pentax SMC-F 28mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 28mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 50mm f1.7, Minolta MC PF Rokkor 50mm f1.4, Porst 28mm f2.8, Meyer - Optik Lydith 30mm f3.5, Nikon AIS 50mm f1.2, Tamron SP 28mm f2.8 adaptall, Pentax SMC Takumar 85mm f1.8, Vivitar Series 1 55mm f1.2, Canon FD 85mm f1.2L, Canon FD 55mm f1.2L, Angenieux 135mm f3.5, Cooke Kinetal 75mm f2.6, Steinheil 85mm f2.8, Leica M 50mm f2, Zeiss flextogon 35mm f2.4, Pancolar 50mm f1.8, Schneider Xenar 85mm f4
Wide : Leica Elmerit M 28mm f2.8 asph, Zeiss Contax 21mm f2.8, Zeiss Flextogon 20mm f2.8, Exakta 24mm f2.8 macro, Tokina 17mm f4 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Oh, those beautiful ladies! Thank you very much! This is real test for 135mm 1.8 I agree this is a great lens with any label , due they are same lenses made by Sigma. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Cobalt60
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: Central Europe
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Cobalt60 wrote:
Just my 5 €-cents
- 300€ is imho far too expensive for this lense
- even if your will be lucky to get one that is performing decent wide open you will have to stop down at least 2 stops to have a decent performance with a good 2x converter ... (bringing you from 1.8 to 3.5 with the converter and then up to f6.5 for decent performance)
In short: I wouldn't take it at that price ... the latest eBay sales have been around 200€ for "as new", so personally I would say 150€ yay! More than 200€ nay _________________ Visit the Yashica Information Site! |
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voytek
Joined: 24 Nov 2009 Posts: 891
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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voytek wrote:
Porst is a newer lens. I think that older version Sigmatel, Sigma, Spiratone, Polaris 1.8/135 is pretty good even wide open - depends on condition of the copy.
Polaris wide open, without sharpening (as I remember)
Bokeh like from the dream
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hk300
Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 1041 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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hk300 wrote:
I saw this Porst lens in good condition on a German Fair, selling for EUR150 ... _________________ No longer member , please don't try to contact to him |
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dnf_spedition
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 64 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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dnf_spedition wrote:
I bought the same lens 2 months ago, mine is branded Eyemik. It is the same lens as the Spiratone and Porst. I have to agree that this lens has the best results in low light situations. I use mine with Oly E-1 a nice balanced combination. Concerning the price. I got very lucky to buy my lens for just 30 Euros. Price on internet up to USD 300.
Regards, Cliff |
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
voytek wrote: |
Porst is a newer lens. I think that older version Sigmatel, Sigma, Spiratone, Polaris 1.8/135 is pretty good even wide open - depends on condition of the copy. |
The pictured Porst has exactly the same barrel as my M42 Spiratone 135/1.8, which should be a bit older, than the YS Spiratone 135/1.8... _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Voytek, nice pics. Very good lens.
What about the old soligor 135/1,8 (the ugly girl of the group?)
In other forum i read that it was a tomioka (??) design, and then so-so at 1,8.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
no-X wrote: |
I have this lens (Spiraton label). The lens is better at f/1.8 than some regarded 50mm lenses at f/1.2 or some 80mm lenses at f/1.8, so it's very subjective.
It's hard to focus with it, because DOF is extremely shallow and many shots can be wasted. But if you focus properly, the results aren't bad.
Check the first picture:
http://forum.mflenses.com/common-flowers-t17435.html
It doesn't make sense to use this lens stopped down, because it doesn't improve performance very much (any slow 135mm lens will be better at f/4). But it's a good tool for low-light situation or bokeh shots. |
I have the Y/S mount Sigmatel Multi Scalematic 135mm f1.8 and with this lens it actually does makes a big difference if you stop it down a bit...Its best between f4 and f5.6 and it makes an excellent short wildlife lens at these apertures.
Heres some samples and 100% crops taken at f4 and f5.6:
I think the Porst is different in optical makeup to my Sigmatel as its certainly not the same mechanically, so it may not be quite as good stopped down.
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16654 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Great shots, congrats!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Great shots, congrats!! |
Thanks Klaus. |
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