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Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5 85mm in use
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:13 pm    Post subject: Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5 85mm in use Reply with quote

Today on some astonishingly sunny day, I took the Quartz Takumar f3.5 85mm out of my "lens vault" and made a few shots with it.

The questions was, how the image quality would turn out, knowing that such type of lenses can usually only be used for a quite
narrow wavelength band (literature states between 10nm and 20nm depending on source), as these lenses are not chromatically
corrected. All shots were done stopped down to f8, which is a usual working aperture to get enough DOF and sharpness.

Here some results:

visible light image using UV/IR cut filter:


multispectral image (i.e. unfiltered) and sunlight:


UV image using Baader-U filter and sunlight:


UV image using Baader-U filter and sunlight + 365nm UV LED:


Findings:
1) There is a substantial focusing difference, here 5mm between the UV (95mm) and the VIS image (100mm between front and
camera mount), resulting in a 5% different image size when focused both (UV image is smaller). Distance orchid - camera was
700mm.

2) When white light is being used for visible photography, the 400-750nm band is quite broad, i.e. 350nm, which leads to quite
visible CA (around edges), soft image and loss of contrast.

3) When white light is being used for multispectral (i.e. unfiltered ca 300-1100nm) photography, that band is even broader,
leading to even softer images and loss of contrast.

4) Also the UV image taken in sunlight using a Baader-U filter (320-395nm i.e. 75nm bandwith) leads to rather soft images,
but a bit better as the band is narrower, only 75nm wide.

5) The UV image taken in UV LED light at 365nm (ca 20nm bandwith) using a Baader-U filter leads to the best image, as here
only the narrow 20nm bandwith of the UV LED around 365nm plays a role. The image is crisp, sharp (see structures on petals)
and has a rather high contrast.

Conclusion is, that only if quasi monochromatic photography is being done (either using narrowband UV filters or narrowband UV
light), acceptable results can be expected. For broadband UV photography, chromatically corrected UV lenses are required, such
as quartz fluorite lenses.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing, again I have learned something new from you.

So to sum up this lens is not suitable for normal photography but the Ultra-Achromatic Takumar is? Someone should tell that to the director of "You Only Live Twice", a James Bond movie from 1967... (Here it's installed in a Toyota 2000 GT to show off the Japanese car, electronics and photography industry):

Very Happy


PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I'm sure this question will come up, here the link to my lens from my macrolenses database:
http://macrolenses.de/ml_detail_sl.php?ObjektiveNr=238


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, Klaus,

I have a bellows that looks exactly like that (well, mine is missing the bellows fabric...). How do I tell if it's a calibrated bellows?


PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That special one is calibrated with tick marks on a scale in two different colors for two different wavelengths.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure mine doesn't, but that's not shocking since it was $5.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I learn something too. Thanks for posting.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow


patrickh


PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kds315* wrote:
It is the only known set in existence all complete, MINT, including the scarce calibrated bellows:

You're kidding? I bet some people buy cars for a lower price. Wink But this set seems to be in very good hands now.


PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your first image isn't showing(extra space).
That is a nice looking set you have.


PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! There was a blank too much, have corrected that.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5 85mm in use Reply with quote

Very nice findings and neat information. Thanks for sharing.


kds315* wrote:
Today on some astonishingly sunny day, I took the Quartz Takumar f3.5 85mm out of my "lens vault" and made a few shots with it.
.


- have not using a REAL VAULT?
(A lens collection with lot of special and unique IT SHOULD make some sense) Laughing