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Panasonic Lumix DMC-G1, who is going for it?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Panasonic Lumix DMC-G1, who is going for it? Reply with quote

With a 1.4x magnification viewfinder (equivalent to 0.7x on a 35mm camera / 50mm lens) this looks like a dream for MF.
So, how many of you have got this baby on your wish list, or already in your bag?


PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on how good the electronic viewfinder is ... the sample images on the web so far look really nice though...


PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it will be priced right and sure, I will take one.
It will be a while before the adapters are on the market for Leica Ltm and L.
As well as C-mount and possibly Contax RF.
This body is too small for reflex lenses IMHO. RF lenses are better for such a camera.
Also Panasonic will likely not offer the body only at introduction.
There is no chance of me buying a kit with AF lens.
Focus with MF will be comparable to live view focus on a canon but faster.

It is an exciting development. Certainly it will take some time to really get an idea o how things will go.
Very Happy


PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Price should be around 800 USD.

I hope this will open the door to real digital rangefinders priced reasonably.

However I am not going for this one. The sensor size is too small for my taste. If I had to buy a digital rangefinder I would go for a used Epson RD


PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
The sensor size is too small for my taste.


Don't understimate the 3/4 sensor, the difference in size (and performance) respect to an APSc is a lot smaller than from a FF 35mm and an APSc.


PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A G Photography wrote:
Orio wrote:
The sensor size is too small for my taste.


Don't understimate the 3/4 sensor, the difference in size (and performance) respect to an APSc is a lot smaller than from a FF 35mm and an APSc.


Don't know if I understood correctly or wrongly, but I think this sensor has the same proportions of the 4/3, but it is smaller?


PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have it right Orio.
It is the same size 2x crop factor.
But 20mm register should improve IQ over standard 4/3 at least in theory with non retrofocus lenses.
Of course that last bit is for others as you know this.
I would consider one at $500 for a body only not a penny more.
It would be a compact camera for tough conditions for me.
Also the prospect of using all lenses is cool.
There are literally no limits to what can be mounted on this body.
A toy maybe rather than a tool Cool


PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 2x crop factor is really what kills this for me. The big advantage of a body like this over, say, a Canon DSLR is that rangefinder lenses can be easily adapted, yet rangefinders are best known for their wide angle lenses, which have a sad tendency to become normal or even telephoto lenses when mounted on a 4/3 body... A EVF camera with a 20mm flange distance and a full-frame (or at least a 1.3x) sensor would be a MUCH better camera for rangefinder lenses.


PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

F16SUNSHINE wrote:

But 20mm register should improve IQ over standard 4/3 at least in theory with non retrofocus lenses.


I am pretty sure it will produce better images than any digital SLR.


PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see what Attila, Allesansdro, VGR and others get from the standard 4/3 and it is really very excellent.
This camera can only be better.
If the EVF is bright, clear, and refreshes quickly.....this could be a killer.
Not a replacement for the RD1 or 5D (ever) but a nice compliment.


PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:

I am pretty sure it will produce better images than any digital SLR.


I'm sure the IQ will be great, but I would never buy a Biogon 2/35 (my dream lens) to have it transformed into a 70mm lens. Shocked Surprised

Until the sensor becomes at least something like the Nikons (1.3x), I'll stick with film.


PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
Attila wrote:

I am pretty sure it will produce better images than any digital SLR.


I'm sure the IQ will be great, but I would never buy a Biogon 2/35 (my dream lens) to have it transformed into a 70mm lens. Shocked Surprised

Until the sensor becomes at least something like the Nikons (1.3x), I'll stick with film.


That is right this camera will never be wide angle camera due crop sensor.

I still keep myself on slides.


PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
Attila wrote:

I am pretty sure it will produce better images than any digital SLR.


I'm sure the IQ will be great, but I would never buy a Biogon 2/35 (my dream lens) to have it transformed into a 70mm lens. Shocked Surprised

Until the sensor becomes at least something like the Nikons (1.3x), I'll stick with film.


Unfortunately Nikons APSc are 1.5x as well Sad so a Biogon would become a normal, 1.3x are Canon 1D (28x19 mm) and Leica M8 (27x18).


PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
That is right this camera will never be wide angle camera due crop sensor.

Of course it will, just not MF. Am I talking sacrilege?
There is already a 7-14 F4 on the lensmap. I'm just praying it will cost less than half of the Olympus ZD 7-14...


PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad I never care AF lenses I think it will be expensive and never reach Voigtlander 15mm + Velvia quality.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I jus' dunno about the Panasonic...I'd hate to have someone call out: "there
goes that lummox with the Lumix again!" Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If only Leica was making an identical model that was twice the price? Smile


PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

will wait for the oly's.
i'll also expect a mayor price drop after couple of months. as e-400 was priced almost 1000 at it's introduction. (e410 was better for half price)


PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Oly looks way cooler, too, very retro.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree the Oly looks cooler.
It seems like it will not have a direct view EVF.
The last thing that I want is to focus exclusively on a preview screen like a p&s camera Sad
Maybe there is a direct EVF on the Oly. It does not look like it in the pics of the prototype Confused


PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There will be optical viewfinders for the hotshoe, isn't that wonderful? It
will look rill rangefindery...


PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
There will be optical viewfinders for the hotshoe, isn't that wonderful?

Optical? Are you sure?
I would really prefer an Olympus sensor stabilized system, but without a strong MF enhancer I'm with Panasonic all the way.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a EVF is efficient for use manual lenses stopped down. you can use a lens at f8 or more without the darkening of optical viewfinder on reflex


PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hm .. i went for a G1 this year

paid 60gbp for a used copy and got Nikon + Canon adapters for my existing glass

which got me in the game without risking much

seems works well, i like it, will upgrade to a model w/video capability when funds permit

i know i know this is zombie thread, but its so great to read ppls first impressions, actually very useful


PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm seriously considering the G3 next, soon

anyone got one?

its got 16mp and video, and its affordable