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Orio
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:20 pm Post subject: New Leica EVIL camera to mount R lenses? |
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Orio wrote:
"Don't sell your Leica R lenses yet !" :
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
But unless it's FF, it's kind of pointless, no? And I can't see them doing a FF EVIL line separate from the M9, which would cannibalize the sales of the latter... unless they make it really lame so that the flange is actually longer than M-mount.
Maybe APS-H?? That could be a niche I guess... _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Yes, I too fail to see a marketing logic in this.
Let's see...
EDIT: thinking again... actually, one possible logic is that they might outsource the camera production to Panasonic.
Wetzlar is months-backordered on the Leica M9. I could buy mine only by a lucky strike, I anticipated of a few minutes a phone order from Rome on the last copy that was remaining to a local store. After that one, it would have meant to order the camera and wait for months.
So, considering the little amount of M9s that Leica can produce in Wetzlar, a new EVIL camera mass produced by Panasonic at a lower cost, quality and final price, might still make sense.
After all, people who really want to buy a M9, they will buy an M9.
And people who just want a full frame range/viewfinder, regardless of M mount, are more probably put off by the high price and long waiting list for a M9, than likely to refuse an EVIL offering. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2107 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Rumor says it is a FF camera, otherwise it does not have any impact at all.
Its price will be 3,200 euro, of course this is a rumor too. Monday is the day
Leica will show to us, I hope. Yes, unknown japanese company is working as
an OEM.... _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
koji wrote: |
Rumor says it is a FF camera, otherwise it does not have any impact at all.
Its price will be 3,200 euro, of course this is a rumor too. Monday is the day
Leica will show to us, I hope. Yes, unknown japanese company is working as
an OEM.... |
Wow, a full frame digital viewfinder at a +-3000 Eur price is going to turn many heads! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
maybe that explain why they have removed the R lenses from Leica website
they are probably cleaning the pics for the big come back _________________ T* |
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
OEM!!!
Brilliant... I just think I might start saving up money _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2107 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
They (Leica) also introduce the camera with AF lenses (more than one), though not
sure you need AF-lens or not. Some speculate the sensor moves to focus
a la Contax AX Auto-Focus style, if so their R-solution fulfill R-lens fans in the end.
Although this AF thing is not confirmed at all.... _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
I believe - if something will come sooner or later - it will be a cam based on the X1 with an adapter for R lenses.
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:58 am Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
Rolf wrote: |
I believe - if something will come sooner or later - it will be a cam based on the X1 with an adapter for R lenses.
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So you mean you think it'll be APS-C?
I really can't see how well that will sell. I mean who but the most feverish Leica-mania would want to shoot with their R lenses on an APS-C Leica camera (that costs $4,000) when they could get much better images shooting those lenses on a 5D Mk2? For way cheaper? _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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a20010494
Joined: 15 Feb 2010 Posts: 396 Location: Perú.
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:53 am Post subject: |
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a20010494 wrote:
The R glass even at its lowest point is still expensive to me... _________________ www.estudiocaleidoscopio.com |
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:08 am Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
Well, that was that. On a brighter note, I won't have to worry about saving up 3200€ :LOL:
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2010/09/18/no-leica-evil-camera-or-r-solutuion-at-photokina/ _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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