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VGR
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 Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: mirror long-focus lens on OLYMPUS 4/3 |
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: mirror long-focus lens on OLYMPUS 4/3 |
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VGR wrote:
Cheap mirror long-focal-length lenses (Rubinar, MTO, ZM... ) M42 are very popular in Russia! They lightweight and compact :
300mm - 1000mm mirror photo lens is applied for any type of camera with a proper ring adaptor to M42x1 thread and used for photographing of remote objects, inaccessible parts of terrain, astronomical objects, architectural details, sports competitions, animals and birds in general ideal for photo hunting.
Special multilayer antireflection coatings at optical elements increase the light transmission; decrease the light dispersion; raise the contrast of a photo object. The photographic lens is furnished with a set of colour filters, and supplied in a handy carrying case.
They produce by LZOS - Lytkarino Optical Glass Factory - Leading manufacturer of optical materials and glass in Russia.
http://lzos.ru/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=63
I used mirror lens with my Olympus 4/3 through steel M42-4/3 adapter with AF/IS (http://oly43club.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=230)
mirror lens compatible with all E-series (E-300, E-500, E-510... not assured about E-3) without any modification!
my collection mirror lens:
Rubinar 500/5.6
Rubinar 300/4.5
ZM-7 300/5.6
MTO 1000/10
ZM-5 500/8
mirror lens Rubinar is sharp with specific bohe (boublik)
on OLYMPUS 4/3 the focal length Increases twice 
photo:
OLYMPUS E-300 + Rubinar 500/5.6 (~ 1000mm on 4/3)
macro:
E-330 + ZM-5 (500/ ~ 1000mm on 4/3
full-size photo:
http://oly43club.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=88
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Nice captures, with nice lenses! I have experience with MTO lenses, how the Rubinar compare with them ? |
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Stonefish
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Stonefish wrote:
Good lens, designed by the Russian Dmitri Dmitriyevich Maksutov. Did constructive caused no chromatic aberration. Light is reflected and only little broken. Reflector (mirror lens) and refractor( normally lenses).The bokeh is unusual.
Nice Pictures.
Imre
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patrickh wrote:
What great shots. These mirror lenses seem pretty decent.
patrickh
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Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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kretzsche
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kretzsche wrote:
How many cost the little Rubinar 300/4.5 ?
cu Uwe
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Richard_D
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
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How many cost the little Rubinar 300/4.5 ?
cu Uwe |
My local camera shop has a used one at 60 gbp - 3 don't know how this compares with ebay.
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55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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kretzsche
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kretzsche wrote:
On ebay-Germany end in 3 days this lens, i look at this
cu Uwe
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rick_oleson
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rick_oleson wrote:
Looks nice! I've used some of the inexpensive Korean mirrors, they're pretty nasty. These shots look much, much better.
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VGR
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:47 am Post subject: |
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VGR wrote:
Thanks all for responses !
| Attila wrote: |
| Nice captures, with nice lenses! I have experience with MTO lenses, how the Rubinar compare with them ? |
Theoretically Rubinar more sharper and modern but in practice they are identical...
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| How many cost the little I have bought Rubinar 300/4.5 ? |
I have bought:
Rubinar 300/4.5 - $80
Rubinar 500/5.6 - $100
ZM-7 - $70
Rubinar MTO 1000/10 - $200
ZM-7 300/5.6 it is a very compact lens (little bit less and more widely than Jupiter-37 135/3.5) And always with me my 600мм )
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Nelson
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Nelson wrote:
| VGR wrote: |
Rubinar 300/4.5 - $80
Rubinar 500/5.6 - $100
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really ?
Prices are higher in France or on Ebay 
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VGR
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:35 am Post subject: |
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VGR wrote:
| Nelson wrote: |
| VGR wrote: |
Rubinar 300/4.5 - $80
Rubinar 500/5.6 - $100
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really ?
Prices are higher in France or on Ebay |
I bought secondhand lens and when these mirror lenses were not still so are popular ...
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Richard_D
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
If anyone has experience of mounting mirrors on a D200 I'd
welcome feedback over prism clearance.
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The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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ChrisLilley wrote:
| Richard_D wrote: |
If anyone has experience of mounting mirrors on a D200 I'd
welcome feedback over prism clearance. |
Thats a point, the E330 omits all that mirror/prism/bulge nonsense.
Although more recent Olympus models do not - from dpreview of E3:
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| Of course the Olympus range itself wasn't standing still, and after a few false starts (mainly caused by the almost suicidal tendency for Olympus industrial designers to produce cameras that didn't look like cameras) and some flashes of inspired innovation (bringing live view, kicking and screaming, to the SLR market, for example) the E-series started to be taken a lot more seriously. |
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Attila wrote:
I had trouble with D50 to mount them, this lens has large diameter and they hit house of flash. |
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VGR
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VGR wrote:
E-500 + Rubinar 500/5.6:
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Orio wrote:
Wow VGR, you have a real talent. It shows from every different kind of pictures you make.
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