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M42 helicoid (macro tube) from hk300 and mflenses - a review
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:14 am    Post subject: M42 helicoid (macro tube) from hk300 and mflenses - a review Reply with quote

Our member hk300 (Alex) sent me a M42 helicoid for test.

I received a very nicely worked matte black finished helicoid with grip, 90mm fully extended, 36mm (optical lenths) compressed.

I understand from Alex, that others lengths and mounts are available on request.

I am using these usually to mount enlarger and other lenses on my digital SLRs, especially for macro shots having them adapted before to M42 using rings etc. But also very useful to attach lens heads without focusing mount to cameras without having to do any surgery on an old lens etc.

The helicoid leaves a good impression and is easy to use aside from some bit rough sound when turning it. I have and use many others of those from different manufacturers (Leitz, Hutech, Pentax etc.) and the most fancy ones have some bit better internal light baffels (there are some built in, see pics) to capture stray light and may sound a bit smoother when operating them, or some cover inside so no greasy part is visible or exposed to dust which might creep in during the years and get stuck there. But aside from that this quality has its (high) price and I guess the price for that one from our member is a very interesting one!

So on a 0...10 point scale (10 best) I would rate that one:

- 7/10 for technics and how its made
- 8/10 for its value for use
- 9/10 for its price

and I will certainly get a few for my optical projects.

If interested, please contact our member hk300 (Alex) directly!!

Here a few pics of the helicoid and a Micro-Nikkor 70mm attached:




















Cheers, Klaus
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks for this review!

How much are they? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, I should get a few of them Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really interesting, I want one of them for sure!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If interested, please contact our member hk300 (Alex) directly!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Klaus! Alex will publish price here soon and you able to order.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Klaus,

Thanks for the nice review, this helicoid is exactly what i was looking for to use my enlarger lenses ...

Best regards
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll find that pretty nice to use, especially out in the field
where a bellows is some cumbersome and delicate. That is
a sturdy and long lasting investment.
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Voigtländer (Cosina) Apo-Makro-Lanthar f2.5 125mm SL

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok. this might be a silly question but i didn't get it right: on one side the helicoid tube has a m42 mount and i understood that it's available with other mounts too (nikon maybe? i'd love that). Now what's on the other side of the tube? m42 too? or m39 (somebody was mentioning enlarger's lens)?
Thanks for taking time to answer me Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piticu, it is quite often those extendable tube have the same mount
at the both sides, off course one male and one female types.

You can relatively easily to obtain M39->M42 and M42->M39 adapter/ring,
check the name "BORG" on the internet. So scheme looks this>

enlarger lens + M39->M42 + M42-ext-tube + M42->F + Nikon F camera

Yes, you can buy M42->F mount adapter (just converter without a lens).
This way allows many enlarger lenses to be used for the most of cameras,
as long as you can get M42->your-camera-mount adapter.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

koji wrote:
Piticu, it is quite often those extendable tube have the same mount
at the both sides, off course one male and one female types.
Never seen one, thanks for clearing the things out for me Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koji, exactly how I do it!

piticu - Alex (hk300) also has these needed adaptors I guess and would be happy to make a nice package.... Wink Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody know the price of this nice helicoid ?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex I think already sent to me to put them into my webshop. Currently I am very busy I hope I able to answer soon.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

piticu wrote:
ok. this might be a silly question but i didn't get it right: on one side the helicoid tube has a m42 mount and i understood that it's available with other mounts too (nikon maybe? i'd love that). Now what's on the other side of the tube? m42 too? or m39 (somebody was mentioning enlarger's lens)?
Thanks for taking time to answer me Smile


these helicoids come with 42mm to 52mm (lens side) and 42 to 42mm.

The camera body side is 42mm, so you can use a m42 to EF/ Nikon/ PK etc adapter to mount this helicoid to your camera.

For the other side (lens side)... at least available are:

There are M39 to M42 conversion adapters available, i will send Klaus one soon. (other screw type are also available)
Canon FD-M42
Minolta AF-M42
ContaxC/Y-M42
Tamron-M42
Nikon-M42

and i may be able to produce or source other ones.
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