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ludoo
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:37 pm Post subject: Leica Digilux 2 |
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ludoo wrote:
Through a strange combination of factors I acquired yesterday a Leica Digilux 2: it was put up for sale from a local Leica shop for about 1/3 its going price, with all its accessories, only 3k shutter actuations and a 1-yr warranty. I guess the few scratches around the strap lugs make it a junk item for most Leica aficionados.
I never thought about getting one, and even though I only got it to resell it and make some needed cash, after a few hours of use I'm not so sure anymore I want to let it go. It's a weird beast: it looks like an analog rangefinder camera, it has fully manual controls even on the very fast zoom (28-90mm 2.0), a ridiculously crappy EVF which nonetheless does its job pretty well, awful noise above 100 ISO, and very slow RAW write times (about 6 seconds).
But evidently all those decades designing cameras for action shooting are not lost on Leica, at least for some of its products: the D2 handles beautifully, it's a marvel of balance and feel. It's hard to explain, but the feeling is totally different from any other digital camera I ever handled. It's almost like there's a small genie inside that makes you want to use it to take pictures.
It not only handles well, its lens is great, and it has a few well thought out functions that are really useful, especially if you are not the type to carry around a bag full of equipment. I especially like the built-in bounce flash, which coupled with EV flash correction makes the camera a great ambient light shooter.
Right now, I'm trying to decide whether to sell it, or my Polaroid 600se. It's a tough call. If you want to read more about the D2, there's a great review in three parts by Thorsten Overgaard.
Here are a couple of pictures I took today while doing errands with my two women.
the obligatory b&w shot
and my two women
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Digital: Samsung EX-1
Past Digital: Samsung NX10, Sigma SD9, Sigma SD10, SD14, DP2, Pentax *istD, Kx, Fuji S2 Pro, Canon 5D
Analog: packfilm Polaroids, 6x9 Kodak folders, Pentacon Taxona half-frame, Fujica ST605n, Walz Envoy, Olympus 35 S-II, Olympus Wide S
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Past Lenses: Nikkor 24/2.8, Nikkor SC 50/1.4, Nikkor 50/2, Nikkor H 85/1.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5, Nikkor Q 135/3.5, Fujinon 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 135/3.5, Fujinon EBC 200/4.5, Mamiya SX 135/2.8, CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 zebra, CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5, ...
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I have looked for this cam for years now, but all the copies I found went for ridiculously high prices!
I love the way this cam looks. And I think it could be a great cam for de-accelerated photography.
Would still love to have one... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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ludoo
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Milan, Italy
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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ludoo wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
I have looked for this cam for years now, but all the copies I found went for ridiculously high prices!
I love the way this cam looks. And I think it could be a great cam for de-accelerated photography.
Would still love to have one... |
Heh, if I decide to let it go I can let you know before it goes on ebay or similar. _________________ My galleries
Digital: Samsung EX-1
Past Digital: Samsung NX10, Sigma SD9, Sigma SD10, SD14, DP2, Pentax *istD, Kx, Fuji S2 Pro, Canon 5D
Analog: packfilm Polaroids, 6x9 Kodak folders, Pentacon Taxona half-frame, Fujica ST605n, Walz Envoy, Olympus 35 S-II, Olympus Wide S
Past Analog: Polaroid 600se, Polaroid 110B, Canon IIF, various fixed-lens and Russian rangefinders, ...
Past Lenses: Nikkor 24/2.8, Nikkor SC 50/1.4, Nikkor 50/2, Nikkor H 85/1.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5, Nikkor Q 135/3.5, Fujinon 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 135/3.5, Fujinon EBC 200/4.5, Mamiya SX 135/2.8, CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 zebra, CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5, ...
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
I have looked for this cam for years now, but all the copies I found went for ridiculously high prices!
I love the way this cam looks. And I think it could be a great cam for de-accelerated photography.
Would still love to have one... |
Perhaps you have to look for the Panasonic brother which maybe cheaper.
Unfortunately no Leica feeling and no red dot
I owned the Leica I believe until 2007 and this cam was the first P&S I was really satisfied with.
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nemesis101
Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 2050 Location: Oregon USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:01 am Post subject: |
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nemesis101 wrote:
Get the Panasonic Lumix L-1 it's bigger brighter brother.. the Leica clone is the Digilux 3...
It has a real optical viewfinder, same funky shape (though larger) and the same weird flash..
Oh and of course being 4/3 almost limitless possibilities for lenses.. and the Oly 14-42 tested almost as well (bar the stabilzer) as the 'Leica' vario-elmarit which is no more Leica than I am...,
Doug _________________ Lenses and cameras:
Amateurs worry about equipment
Pros worry about money,
Masters worry about light. |
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ludoo
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Milan, Italy
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:05 am Post subject: |
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ludoo wrote:
I don't need another DSLR, especially with a tiny and dark viewfinder.
What I'd love is a digital fixed lens rangefinder camera. The new Fuji is what I'd love, except for its 35mm lens which is slightly too wide for my tastes. _________________ My galleries
Digital: Samsung EX-1
Past Digital: Samsung NX10, Sigma SD9, Sigma SD10, SD14, DP2, Pentax *istD, Kx, Fuji S2 Pro, Canon 5D
Analog: packfilm Polaroids, 6x9 Kodak folders, Pentacon Taxona half-frame, Fujica ST605n, Walz Envoy, Olympus 35 S-II, Olympus Wide S
Past Analog: Polaroid 600se, Polaroid 110B, Canon IIF, various fixed-lens and Russian rangefinders, ...
Past Lenses: Nikkor 24/2.8, Nikkor SC 50/1.4, Nikkor 50/2, Nikkor H 85/1.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5, Nikkor Q 135/3.5, Fujinon 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 135/3.5, Fujinon EBC 200/4.5, Mamiya SX 135/2.8, CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 zebra, CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5, ...
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5040 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Leica Digilux 2 |
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kansalliskala wrote:
ludoo wrote: |
Right now, I'm trying to decide whether to sell it, or my Polaroid 600se. It's a tough call. |
What a strange choice? It's like choosing between a box of apples and a power hammer .. _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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ludoo
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Milan, Italy
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Leica Digilux 2 |
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ludoo wrote:
kansalliskala wrote: |
What a strange choice? It's like choosing between a box of apples and a power hammer .. |
I love the 600se and it takes fantastic pictures, but it's too bulky to carry around so I almost never use it. And the only film available here is fp-100c, if fp-3000b were easily available and as cheap as in the US, it would be a different matter. _________________ My galleries
Digital: Samsung EX-1
Past Digital: Samsung NX10, Sigma SD9, Sigma SD10, SD14, DP2, Pentax *istD, Kx, Fuji S2 Pro, Canon 5D
Analog: packfilm Polaroids, 6x9 Kodak folders, Pentacon Taxona half-frame, Fujica ST605n, Walz Envoy, Olympus 35 S-II, Olympus Wide S
Past Analog: Polaroid 600se, Polaroid 110B, Canon IIF, various fixed-lens and Russian rangefinders, ...
Past Lenses: Nikkor 24/2.8, Nikkor SC 50/1.4, Nikkor 50/2, Nikkor H 85/1.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5, Nikkor Q 135/3.5, Fujinon 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 135/3.5, Fujinon EBC 200/4.5, Mamiya SX 135/2.8, CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 zebra, CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5, ...
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ludoo
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Milan, Italy
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:31 am Post subject: |
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ludoo wrote:
I think I'm going to put the D2 for sale. Any interested members from MFL have priority, and a much cheaper price than what it'll fetch on ebay. It's a grea user camera with some marks on the body around the strap lugs, pretty common with earlier D2, and a very small (1 or 2mm circle) mark on the front lens only visible in contra light, like an evaporated drop which might or might not clean off. Double batteries, hood, filter adapter, and 3k shutter actuations. A formal ad in the marketplace soon. _________________ My galleries
Digital: Samsung EX-1
Past Digital: Samsung NX10, Sigma SD9, Sigma SD10, SD14, DP2, Pentax *istD, Kx, Fuji S2 Pro, Canon 5D
Analog: packfilm Polaroids, 6x9 Kodak folders, Pentacon Taxona half-frame, Fujica ST605n, Walz Envoy, Olympus 35 S-II, Olympus Wide S
Past Analog: Polaroid 600se, Polaroid 110B, Canon IIF, various fixed-lens and Russian rangefinders, ...
Past Lenses: Nikkor 24/2.8, Nikkor SC 50/1.4, Nikkor 50/2, Nikkor H 85/1.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5, Nikkor Q 135/3.5, Fujinon 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 135/3.5, Fujinon EBC 200/4.5, Mamiya SX 135/2.8, CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 zebra, CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5, ...
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
ludoo wrote: |
LucisPictor wrote: |
I have looked for this cam for years now, but all the copies I found went for ridiculously high prices!
I love the way this cam looks. And I think it could be a great cam for de-accelerated photography.
Would still love to have one... |
Heh, if I decide to let it go I can let you know before it goes on ebay or similar. |
Yes, please! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
http://www.retrocamera.de |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Looking at these images, I can definitely see the rapture for this camera.
The few ones offered on ebay go for insane money. |
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ludoo
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Milan, Italy
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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ludoo wrote:
I decided not to keep the D2, and since Karsten has been looking for one for years, to sell it to him at a similar price than what I paid. He will attend a Leica event in the weekend, so I shipped it in a hurry, and since miracles sometimes happen, shipment took 24 hrs from the central post office in Milan to his doorstep in Germany.
Now I'm very curious about his reactions to the camera, after having dreamed about it for years. _________________ My galleries
Digital: Samsung EX-1
Past Digital: Samsung NX10, Sigma SD9, Sigma SD10, SD14, DP2, Pentax *istD, Kx, Fuji S2 Pro, Canon 5D
Analog: packfilm Polaroids, 6x9 Kodak folders, Pentacon Taxona half-frame, Fujica ST605n, Walz Envoy, Olympus 35 S-II, Olympus Wide S
Past Analog: Polaroid 600se, Polaroid 110B, Canon IIF, various fixed-lens and Russian rangefinders, ...
Past Lenses: Nikkor 24/2.8, Nikkor SC 50/1.4, Nikkor 50/2, Nikkor H 85/1.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5, Nikkor Q 135/3.5, Fujinon 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 100/2.8, Fujinon EBC 135/3.5, Fujinon EBC 200/4.5, Mamiya SX 135/2.8, CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 zebra, CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5, ...
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
ludoo wrote: |
I decided not to keep the D2, and since Karsten has been looking for one for years, to sell it to him at a similar price than what I paid. He will attend a Leica event in the weekend, so I shipped it in a hurry, and since miracles sometimes happen, shipment took 24 hrs from the central post office in Milan to his doorstep in Germany.
Now I'm very curious about his reactions to the camera, after having dreamed about it for years. |
Cool, it went to capable hands! Carsten, post some photos when you can! |
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Cool, it went to capable hands! Carsten, post some photos when you can! |
Post them also if you can't! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Katastrofo wrote: |
Cool, it went to capable hands! Carsten, post some photos when you can! |
Post them also if you can't! |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Thanks!
Yes, it's incredible. Ludo sent the package yesterday morning and today at lunch break it arrived at my house. Just by coincidence I was at home when it came by UPS. WOW!
I wondered who sent me something via UPS and then I saw "Poste italiana" on the box. OMG! Could that be true?
Indeed, it was!
With trembling fingers I signed on this mobile computer they use and went inside. In unpacked the perfectly wrapped camera and fell (again) in love with it immediately. What a beauty!!
I first let it acclimatize a little, since it is rather cold outside. And after a while I turned on the camera.
It starts much faster than I have expected and focusing (AF) is also pretty fast. My veins are still buzzing with adrenaline. It is as Ludo wrote: just imagine you have wished for something for years and now you are able to hold it in your hands! Amazing!
Of course, I will show you some images, but it's already getting dark outside. So it will have to wait until tomorrow, I'm afraid.
BTW, I just have heard that I won't be able to attend the Leica Academy Show on Saturday. Unfortunately, I have some work to do which is due on Monday, so it's going to be a work weekend.
I was so looking forward to take photos with a Leica at the Leica event. But the Digilux 2 more than compensates that.
I'm sure I will love that cam! More later...
BTW, thanks again Ludo for this fantastic offer! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
http://www.retrocamera.de |
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Rolf
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Hi Carsten, congrats for your new equipment. One of the best P&S cams I ever owned. Below 2 shots out of that time (2005)
location > 1st : Palamós / Spain; 2nd : Aiguablava-Begur / Spain
_________________ Rolf
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
First P&S I see that resembles quality of SLR. Impressive. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Some first images: http://forum.mflenses.com/digilux-2-first-images-t34301.html _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
http://www.retrocamera.de |
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