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Komura LTM 3.5/105 and 2.8/135
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:50 am    Post subject: Komura LTM 3.5/105 and 2.8/135 Reply with quote

the older 105mm says 'Komura', the newer 135mm 'Sankyo Kohki Komura'
I like the looks of the 105 Wink








( sorry for the dust..I took them in a hurry, just before sunset, and forgot to blow-dust them )
cheers, andreas


PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing, Andy!


PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you for looking and commenting Carsten.
these lenses are not all that commonly seen, therefore I hope that these pics are of interest
cheers, andreas


PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congregation! The 105 with the handwriting Komura engraved is very rare. There is at least five different versions of the F3.5 version I can find. Here is the five versions arranged in chronological order.

1st version, all chrome, 4-digit serial
http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e150082628#

2nd version, similar to v1 with block color focus and aperture ring, handwriting 'Komura' on nameplate(your copy), 6-digit serial


3rd version, similar to v1, all black except the chrome front part, 6-digit serial
http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m126586514

4th version, similar to v3 with the mount and DOF part in black, 6-digit serial
Click here to see on Ebay

5th version, all black except the bottom chrome mount, with new different style focus and aperture ring, 7-digit serial
Click here to see on Ebay

P.S. I receive today a Komura 2/105 from a forum member in UK who relay the lens to me.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow Calvin, thank you so much about all this information!

I was simply curious about these Komura lenses and clicked on some auctions without knowing anything about them nor about different version. If I remember right I even had repented to have 'clicked' on the 105 that time because just a day later I could have gotten a faster, but not the f2, 105mm Komura in LTM for even less. Do I remember right? Are there any f2.5 or f2.8 105mm Komuras in LTM?
Anyway now that I received the lenses I am very happy about the 3.5/105, with all that wear and patina imo it simply looks so very gorgeous, and the 'handwritten' Komura sure adds to that special look

'My' 2.8/135mm seems to be of about the same vintage than the 5th version of the 105 you had linked, is that right?

I have taken the first test shots with the 2.8/135 today, wide open it isn't good but just one stop down it looked quite good. Rel. poor wide open also might be due to damaged glass, specially around edges it looks quite bad. BTW. it came with it's case and viewfinder included, should add a photo of those

I am very curious how this 3.5/ 105 shall perform
and even more so how your f2/105 shall perform Wink

cheers, andreas


PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful, the style of the first is very consistent with a Soligor 135/2.8 attributed to Komura that I have seen on this forum. I believe it is depicted in the Big Soligor thread. I'm sorry I can't provide a more specific attribution but I don't have time to go through all 16 pages this morning!


PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is interesting, and what a beauty the older Komuras!

I have #5, with a slightly different variation on the logo, and if you look at my serial this logo was possibly the last of the Komura 105mm lineup?!?

http://iloapp.new4m.com/data/_gallery/public/144/140329869579274900_resized.jpg


PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. There are three faster version.

F2.8 version. Very rare. This version have different serial starting with 33.
http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/mcclinic2/115190.html

F2.5 version
http://rubicon.egloos.com/m/5534174

F2 vesion
Click here to see on Ebay

The 2.8/135 is the same as the SLR version with different mount.

I think you will like the 3.5/105. It is a capable triplet with its own character.


PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the 105mm f2 too, in m42 mount Embarassed
Is this the same lens as the LTM version?

http://iloapp.new4m.com/data/_gallery/public/222/140338333059514200_resized.jpg


PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nordentro wrote:
I have the 105mm f2 too, in m42 mount Embarassed
Is this the same lens as the LTM version?

http://iloapp.new4m.com/data/_gallery/public/222/140338333059514200_resized.jpg

Yes. They are optically the same.


PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks to me that these Komuras have an optical part incl. the aperture assembly that can be screwed out in one piece, remaining part is the helicoid with mount. I guess that the M39 helicoid + mount can be freely exchanged with the M42 helicoid and mount. Similarily the optical blocks of the 100mm and 135 mm Canon LTM lenses can be screwed out in one part, I wonder if they would also fit the helicoid + mount piece of Canomatic R lenses and vice versa


PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kuuan wrote:
looks to me that these Komuras have an optical part incl. the aperture assembly that can be screwed out in one piece, remaining part is the helicoid with mount. I guess that the M39 helicoid + mount can be freely exchanged with the M42 helicoid and mount. Similarily the optical blocks of the 100mm and 135 mm Canon LTM lenses can be screwed out in one part, I wonder if they would also fit the helicoid + mount piece of Canomatic R lenses and vice versa

I think Komura use the exact front part but not the Canon. The optical block of the 2/105 can be screw off easily http://www.bigeye.url.tw/big5/d_komu105_2_2.htm .


PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

calvin83 wrote:
...The optical block of the 2/105 can be screw off easily http://www.bigeye.url.tw/big5/d_komu105_2_2.htm .


definitely Wink



here the clever case of the 2.8/135, it has a pocket in it's lid for the viewfinder


PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The case of my Komura 2/105 have the same design.


PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What gorgeous looking lenses! All that history they have seen...


PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

right, imagine all what has been viewed through these lenses, I love that!
in the meantime I had picked up another copy of the 3.5/105, body looks the same with less brassing and it has a different, later looking lettering on it's name ring. Test shots show quite a different rendering, I suppose it's mostly improved coatings. I plan to add o photo of it ( but the lens is not with me now and it will take a while )


PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the Lenny Kravitz edition Like 1 small