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Jupiter-9 2/85 L39
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:19 pm    Post subject: Jupiter-9 2/85 L39 Reply with quote







PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very nice series, Attila.

Is this lens 2/85 copied from some Carl Zeiss design? I do not know
Russian lenses well.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
koji wrote:
Very nice series, Attila.

Is this lens 2/85 copied from some Carl Zeiss design? I do not know
Russian lenses well.


I think yes. Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar RF lens copy. Very , very good ones, especially early ones. They are Zeiss quality without any doubt. I have two early ones , both perform very well.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
koji wrote:
Very nice series, Attila.

Is this lens 2/85 copied from some Carl Zeiss design? I do not know
Russian lenses well.


Yes! It's carbon copy of one of the gems in the Contax catalogue, the Sonnar 2/85 of 1933 !


PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks guys, I must find (early) Jupitor-9. Very Happy


PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
koji wrote:
Thanks guys, I must find (early) Jupitor-9. Very Happy


Good luck, almost unfindeable Sad
And, beware of the imitations: it is one of the most imitated lenses, ever. Soviets took the old Jupiters, replaced the front ring, voilà instant fake.
Experts believe a lot of the self-saying 2/85 Sonnars sold online are Jupiter fakes.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
koji wrote:
Thanks guys, I must find (early) Jupitor-9. Very Happy


Good luck, almost unfindeable Sad
And, beware of the imitations: it is one of the most imitated lenses, ever. Soviets took the old Jupiters, replaced the front ring, voilà instant fake.
Experts believe a lot of the self-saying 2/85 Sonnars sold online are Jupiter fakes.


Gosh!!


PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio did talk about Sonnar, early Jupiter-9 is available , not so rare.

Let me know what mount do you looking for Kiev/Contax I think rarer or Leica L39 I will help in hunting.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think that unless someone is a collector, it does not make sense to buy an original Sonnar: for maybe 5% optical difference
(Jupiter aluminium maybe 95% performance of original Sonnar), you pay, easily, 5 to 10 times more (more 10 than 5).
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
I think that unless someone is a collector, it does not make sense to buy an original Sonnar: for maybe 5% optical difference
(Jupiter aluminium maybe 95% performance of original Sonnar), you pay, easily, 5 to 10 times more (more 10 than 5).
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yes, J-9 just fine I did test 4 copies all was great.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
Orio did talk about Sonnar, early Jupiter-9 is available , not so rare.

Let me know what mount do you looking for Kiev/Contax I think rarer or Leica L39 I will help in hunting.


I found one at eBay, this one Click here to see on Ebay
Is this OK?
Another one is currently offered by 100% reputation guy
in Ukraine, think it is US$110 + shipping $35 (kinda expensive).....

I can wait for a long time for this. My Leica M8 is broken, yet
I can use it with BESSAs.

I prefer L39 mount, since I want to use it on RF camera(s),
and easy to use on NEX5 too. Very Happy


PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes. With earlier serial number perhaps better. This one is one of the latest. I expect good results too. 8,5cm Red P is key Wink if you see some bubbles in glass that is real bonus.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you, Attila.

When do you sleep, it must be after mid-night since Toronto is
9 p.m. now.

I will bid that lens tomorrow morning.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Finger crossed to get it !


PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Got it!


My lens is too tight for focusing, no infinity. Crying or Very sad Laughing Crying or Very sad Laughing

I used C1 version 6.2 (new), but cannot upgrade without paying, paid for 6.0 Pro version. Crying or Very sad

Last edited by koji on Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:56 pm; edited 4 times in total


PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Great! I look forward to see pictures and hear your opinion!


PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
koji wrote:
Got it!

1. Ranunculus @f5.6 with NEX5, CaptureOne


2. Boke, @f5.6, NEX5, C1

This flower is called "boke" in Japanese, not "bokeh" though meaning is the same. (I like the spelling of "boke" better.)

My lens is too tight for focusing, no infinity. Crying or Very sad Laughing Crying or Very sad Laughing

I used C1 version 6.2 (new), but cannot upgrade without paying, paid for 6.0 Pro version. Crying or Very sad


PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Look your adapter ,perhaps not right , my first m4/3 L39 adapter had bad design lens rare couldn't move enough deep into body to reach infinity. I did replace it to a better design on m4/3 and works right now. I have no experience on NEX.


PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I can manage "infinity focus" somehow, if I take off one spacer ring used
inside of the lens it can reach infinity focus. (Even I can focus infinity,
RF camera such as Leica M2 cannot focus infinity correctly, I know it.)

The problem is tight focusing ring, I guess there is old hardened helicoid
oil which makes rotating too heavy. I searched the internet, and found
disassemble of jupiter-9 (M42 version). But its internal is a bit different
than my RF L-mount jupiter-9, similar thou.

Someday I will de-grease this old oil and put new silicon helical oil
in order to get smoother movement of focus ring.


PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I see, what is your impression about J9 do you like it ?
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