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hiep
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 80 Location: Tustin, California
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: How much to pay for a Minty Sonnar MC 200/2.8 |
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hiep wrote:
Hi,
I checked the price guide, and I found 2 results. One was sold for merely ~80USD in early 2007. The other one was going for 220USD IIRC. A local store at my place is selling this for $450 (no tax if use cash). So I wonder if you guys think it's worth it. I get this as a substitution for Voigtlander 180/4. Thank you.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I saw locally here for 200USD , 450 USD is awful lot for a lens what is not really usable on DSLR bodies. You can buy a Nikkor 180mm f2.8 ED lens for less! _________________ -------------------------------
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hiep
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 80 Location: Tustin, California
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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hiep wrote:
Thanks for the info Attila. I'm just curious to why you said it's not really usable on a DSLR body. |
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Minolta MD can be adapted with infinity focus on Olympus E-1 and hard to find adapter. Do you know other camera ? _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I saw locally here for 200USD , 450 USD is awful lot for a lens what is not really usable on DSLR bodies. |
Why you say that Attila? I have one, and I used it with all my digital reflex, no problem. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Minolta MD adaptable on Canon with infinity focus ? _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Wasn't he speaking of Jena Sonnar 2.8/200?
I am confused!!!!!! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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hiep
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 80 Location: Tustin, California
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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hiep wrote:
Hi Attilla,
I think you're mistaken Minty as an abbreviation for Minolta. This is the Zeiss Jena Sonnar MC 200/2.8. I'm using the Pentax K10D.
So after the confusion, i still wonder if $450 is too much.
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Jena 200 is not a common lens.
If the copy is really good, i.e. no sign on glass, aperture ok (check aperture, weak point of jena lenses), good looking, then the price can be acceptable, although surely not a bargain. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
So I was tired sorry guys! Sonnar is one of the best lens it's category rare and superb.300 USD not bad price for that, 450 USD too much. _________________ -------------------------------
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hiep
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 80 Location: Tustin, California
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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hiep wrote:
Thanks Orio and Attila,
I think I would pass it for now. Just out of curiosity, have you guys seen the Pentax SMC-A* or FA* 85/1.4 in your area? I'm looking for one of these. In US, it's running for a very ridiculous price (1600 for the A*). Thank you. |
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: Re: How much to pay for a Minty Sonnar MC 200/2.8 |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
hiep wrote: |
Hi,
I checked the price guide, and I found 2 results. One was sold for merely ~80USD in early 2007. The other one was going for 220USD IIRC. A local store at my place is selling this for $450 (no tax if use cash). So I wonder if you guys think it's worth it. I get this as a substitution for Voigtlander 180/4. Thank you.
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You are getting rid of a Voigtländer 180/4 for a $220 lens? _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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hiep
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 80 Location: Tustin, California
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:50 am Post subject: |
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hiep wrote:
LOL, I don't have the Voigtlander. I planned to get it but the only store in US that has this one happens to be in the same state with me so i have to pay the extra tax. This lens is outstanding, it's faster than the Cosina one and has good bokeh too. $450 would place it as much as the Voigtlander so I asked Attila and Orio if it's worth that price. |
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Flor27
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 1195 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
It worth the price you want to put for it... _________________ Switching from M42 to Minolta MD & Contax/Yashica |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:59 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Voigtlaender's is a better lens for sure. If for nothing else, for it's new design and APO capability.
But the Sonnar is not an underdog - it's a Jena Sonnar, a lens with a glorious history and it's own personality. The 180 model (of which this 200 is a direct derivation) has been in production for 52 years - the lens has seen come and go dozens of other tele lenses. This means something to a MF lover. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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hiep
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 80 Location: Tustin, California
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: |
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hiep wrote:
Thanks for the input Orio. i guess I need to wait it out for the Voigtlander then. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:15 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
hiep wrote: |
Thanks for the input Orio. i guess I need to wait it out for the Voigtlander then. |
Make sure not to wait too much, because it's out of production, and when it's gone, it's gone for good. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:03 am Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
hiep wrote: |
Thanks for the input Orio. i guess I need to wait it out for the Voigtlander then. |
Check out this review noting in particular the very low levels of CA and the high and very linear sharpness (edges are always only slightly worse than center). Bokeh is also outstanding. _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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