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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:37 pm Post subject: Historical parade in Grazzano, 2010 (1) |
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Orio wrote:
Open air exhibition of historical rural instruments
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Distagon 3.5/15 on EOS 5D: (no software correction on perspective)
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Biogon 2/35 on M9:
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Biogon 2/35 on M9:
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Biogon 2/35 on M9:
Souvenirs shop
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Distagon 3.5/15 on EOS 5D: (no software correction on perspective)
Moments from the parade
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Vario-Sonnar 80-200 on EOS 5D Mark II:
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Vario-Sonnar 80-200 on EOS 5D Mark II:
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1965's aluminium Jupiter-9 on EOS 5D Mark II:
Horses' resting place
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1965's aluminium Jupiter-9 on EOS 5D Mark II:
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1965's aluminium Jupiter-9 on EOS 5D Mark II:
Two non-sharpened crops from picture #10
1965's aluminium Jupiter-9 on EOS 5D Mark II:
1965's aluminium Jupiter-9 on EOS 5D Mark II:
Incumbent statue
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1965's aluminium Jupiter-9 on EOS 5D Mark II:
Inside the church
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Biogon 2/35 on M9:
Other moments from the parade:
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Pancolar 1.8/80 on EOS 5D Mark II:
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Pancolar 1.8/80 on EOS 5D Mark II:
Two non-sharpened crops from picture #16
Pancolar 1.8/80 on EOS 5D Mark II:
Pancolar 1.8/80 on EOS 5D Mark II:
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Clarity is pretty amazing ! Great series! _________________ -------------------------------
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Historical parade in Grazzano, 2010 (1) |
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Esox lucius wrote:
Great series, up to the same high quality standard of "being there" feeling from your previous event posts!
There is some great color and dimensionality in the Biogon photos, my personal favorites - to my eye, the Biogon stands out from the others here. My favorite from the series due to dimensionality, color and detail (and, it tells the idea of the event as well).
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Biogon 2/35 on M9:
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karabud
Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Posts: 843 Location: Lodz
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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karabud wrote:
Beautiful series!Great shot&lenses
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
great series! my favs #6#8#15#16 _________________ T* |
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3462 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
Looks like a fascinating place to wander around for an afternoon! _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
You go to some intersting events Orio. I prefer the Pancolar shots to the Jupiter, what do you think? _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3439 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
Very nice pictures, thanks for sharing! |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Fantastic series! Very nice event!
All the lenses performed great and the cams as well.
OK, these are about the best cams with fullframes sensors you can get (perhaps with the exception of some Nikons).
I just love the horse shot!
Is there a camera shake visible in "01. Biogon 2/35 on M9"? _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Riku
Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1059 Location: Finland
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Riku wrote:
Biogon shots look best quality-wise but all are excellent! |
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pich900
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1745 Location: The Netherlands/Zwolle
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
What a beautiful serie with such beautiful lenses as well!
Difficult for me to tell witch one is my favourite...I like a lot the colours and clarity details from the biogon, the great perspective without any distortion from the distagon, the beautiful and creamy bokeh from the portraits shots (pancolar as well as the Vario-Sonnar zoom).....
Always nice to see this kind of events, thanks for sharing.... |
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ludoo
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Milan, Italy
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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ludoo wrote:
Verie nice series, #1 #3 and #16 are my favourites, and you really manage to bring out the best from the Biogon. |
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
Beautiful renditions. The dark fellow by the tent, the laughing horse, and the girl in green are my favorites ... _________________ Paul
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Historical parade in Grazzano, 2010 (1) |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks for the comments guys.
Esox lucius wrote: |
(# 02) My favorite from the series due to dimensionality, color and detail |
Amazing dimensionality even at f/8, isn't it? It's very hard to find a lens so dimensional at such small apertures.
I am also extremely happy with the colours here. I planned to make B&W of these instruments shots, but the richness and subtleness of the shades and half-tones convinced me to keep the colour.
It went the same for the church shot.
karabud wrote: |
15 and 16 are my favourites |
poilu wrote: |
my favs #6#8#15#16 |
LucisPictor wrote: |
I just love the horse shot! |
#16 is my favourite also I tried horse headshots all day. I think horses have such a great potential for head portraits. In this case I really had a lucky strike
peterqd wrote: |
You go to some intersting events Orio. I prefer the Pancolar shots to the Jupiter, what do you think? |
They are surely different, Peter. The Pancolar is sharp on focus and very smooth out of focus. I used it at or around f/2.8 in these shots. This because at f/1.8 it tends to create some highlight halo around the OOF objects which I don't like much. I used the Jupiter at f/5.6 all the time, because I think this is where it gives it's best. The wide open OOF of the J9 is problematic under many circumstances, while at f/5.6 the lens renders the detail sharply but always with an "organic" feel that I find very natural, as it shows from the horse coat details that I posted. Amazing to think that the lens is single coated and aluminium barreled, from 1965. Yet I did not retouch the images' contrast. To put a lens hood on was all that it needed.
Overall I would say that the Pancolar renders more "artsy" while the Jupiter-9 is more naturalistic (at f/5.6).
But of the three teles I used last Sunday, I have to say, the Vario-Sonnar is my favourite.
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Is there a camera shake visible in "01. Biogon 2/35 on M9"? |
You really have the "adlerauger", Carsten! Yes, there is some motion blur in that shot, in spite of the 1/50 shutter time. I must have held the camera very poorly.
Esox lucius wrote: |
There is some great color and dimensionality in the Biogon photos, my personal favorites - to my eye, the Biogon stands out from the others here. |
Riku wrote: |
Biogon shots look best quality-wise but all are excellent! |
ludoo wrote: |
and you really manage to bring out the best from the Biogon. |
Thanks. Yes this Biogon is really a wonderful lens. It renders really distortion-free images. You can play it like a musical instrument in that at every aperture, it gives a little different result. It transitions from dreamy at wdie open, to 3Dimensional between f/2.8 and f/4, to sparkling clear at f/8. I finally found a tough competitor for my beloved Distagon 1.4/35
pich900 wrote: |
I like a lot the colours and clarity details from the biogon, the great perspective without any distortion from the distagon, the beautiful and creamy bokeh from the portraits shots (pancolar as well as the Vario-Sonnar zoom)..... |
Yes, it was the first time that I went out with this lens setup and I have to say it worked really well. I was afraid I could miss a fast 50mm but the Biogon 35 covers the 50mm territory with no effort, as you can really crop the picture to death and you still have plenty of detail.
I am more and more in love with the Vario-Sonnar 80-200, stopped down it renders even better than the Sonnar 180 prime, although the latter has better performance wide open. But the 80-200 renders colours with a magical density and the bokeh is really my liking (not too busy and not too smooth).
fish4570 wrote: |
Beautiful renditions. The dark fellow by the tent, the laughing horse, and the girl in green are my favorites ... |
Happy you like the "black saracen" picture, I am happy with it, I like the contrast of the very dark skin and white clothes. The decorative surrounding helps the effect. Unfortunately, at this web size the face expression is completely lost. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Himself
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
I'm impressed by the 15mm Distagon.
I see no distorsion at all.
And btw, did you leave any lenses or camera at home?
Or you had a caddy?
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Himself wrote: |
I'm impressed by the 15mm Distagon.
I see no distorsion at all. |
Yes, stellar performance! And stellar price
one copy of the 2 thousands or so ever produced (I don't remember the precise number, maybe Sandy does?)
However, it makes you feel nervous every time you handle it
Himself wrote: |
And btw, did you left any lenses or camera at home?
Or you had a caddy? |
A caddy, now that is a great idea, thanks!
Seriously, the bag was not big: 5 lenses and 2 cameras, of which one lens (the Biogon) and one camera (the M9) on the "really small" side, and other two lenses (the J9 and the Pancolar) on the "small" side. Only the Distagon 15 was big. The Vario-Sonnar is long but narrow and lightweight.
It should have been 4 lenses, but I wanted to try both the J9 and the Pancolar, so I took both of them with me although they are the duplicate of each other. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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trifox
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
Great set!
I love the smiling horse, but -- the Biogon is amazing! well - Leica M9 too
the Distagon 3.5/15? wow - another gem in your collection?
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I could have even a lens for 1000000 on my camera -- my hands never shake with expensive lens - I don't know why ..
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Carlsson
Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 793 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Carlsson wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Yes, stellar performance! And stellar price
one copy of the 2 thousands or so ever produced (I don't remember the precise number, maybe Sandy does?)
However, it makes you feel nervous every time you handle it |
Of course I do, 1056 pieces ever made. And for me it's the best super wide angle!
There is no other, except the Super-Elmar 3.5/15 which is ...
Very nice series Orio, I'm glad that you love the Biogon 2/35, this lens is irreplaceable, it's the better 50mm with the sharpness and resolution of your M9. _________________
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Tharos
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:38 am Post subject: |
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Tharos wrote:
Great set. I like the bokeh on vario sonnar shots most. _________________ Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
trifox wrote: |
the Distagon 3.5/15? wow - another gem in your collection? |
I bought it end of last year, but I never had a good occasion to use it until last Sunday.
It' s not the lens that you want to take to the mess of the Carnival, or for a simple walk. You need proper subjects.
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I could have even a lens for 1000000 on my camera -- my hands never shake with expensive lens - I don't know why .. /quote]
Haha! I thought so also, but this huge piece of protruding unprotected
and extremely rare glass made me change my attitude.
[quote="Carlsson"]Of course I do, 1056 pieces ever made. |
Thanks Sandy.
So guys, as you can see, only one thousand copies of this historical and pretty irreplaceable glass in the world.
It makes the owner responsible like a museum holder I think.
Carlsson wrote: |
I'm glad that you love the Biogon 2/35, this lens is irreplaceable, it's the better 50mm with the sharpness and resolution of your M9. |
I loved this lens even before having it, just from the images that I could see on the Internet.
Tharos wrote: |
I like the bokeh on vario sonnar shots most. |
Me too, Tharos. It's one of the lenses that makes one change opinion about the zooms. Well, it did make change mine. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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