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padiej
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 244 Location: AUSTRIA - Burgenland
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: HANIMEX 35mm/f2.8 M42 |
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padiej wrote:
Hallo!
I tested this lens and i am not amused. There is a fog in the pictures, a drunky lens , cleaning is for nothing, it´s adapted to raining weather, I see. An english lens also
regards Peter _________________ Cam: Canon EOS 5D, 50D, 500D, Pentax Ist DL
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
If you are looking for super cheap wide angle lenses, try the Macro Revuenons (35mm and 28mm), preferably MC version (multicoated).
I have both, paid very little, and they do a very good closeup work.
Of course at infinity they are not like a Flektogon, but for the money, they are acceptable. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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padiej
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 244 Location: AUSTRIA - Burgenland
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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padiej wrote:
there is no dust into the lens, but the result is very soft _________________ Cam: Canon EOS 5D, 50D, 500D, Pentax Ist DL
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
that is because of flare, you did not use a hood and the lens has bad or no multicoating. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Check for haze (condensation of oil or adhesive solvent) between the lenses. That can make flare very bad, like this or worse.
I have a formerly good lens (Sigma 28mm) that is now ruined for this reason. |
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padiej
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 244 Location: AUSTRIA - Burgenland
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:56 am Post subject: |
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padiej wrote:
At first, my Hanimex look´s new, only the rubberband is broken, so I think, this is a cheap lens.
The machanic is great, the blind works fine.
I don´t know anything about the quality-ranking of this lenstype.
regards Peter _________________ Cam: Canon EOS 5D, 50D, 500D, Pentax Ist DL
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
The Hanimex lenses were cheap Japanese lenses mainly sold through general catalogue stores like Argos and high street chains like Dixons. _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
These lenses are door stop only waste time to use them. For a bit more money so many excellent 35mm lens are available.
My conclusion is usable bargain lens available in normal and telephoto category. For wide angle shoots need to pay a bit more. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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padiej
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 244 Location: AUSTRIA - Burgenland
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: |
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padiej wrote:
An optical doorstop, also.
If I see the differens to asahi or zeiss, that´s true.
So I have two doorstopper´s - Berolin and Hanimex
I think, this is the end of my interrest for hanimex.
Whitch screw should I use for the montage on the floor to stop the door???
regards Peter _________________ Cam: Canon EOS 5D, 50D, 500D, Pentax Ist DL
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:44 am Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Well, you already have one of the best (if not the best) M42 35mm lens, the CZJ Flektogon 2.4.
I too tried once a Hanimex , a 28mm K Pentax mount one but the results were poor (no contrast especially).
A Hanimex is good if it is very cheap or for free
Except the optics, the build quality is pretty good but on those times ('60-'70 and older) almost all lenses were build like a tank. In the '80 plastic appeared more and more as material in lenses and cameras too. _________________ Canonet QL17 III
Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
Nikon D90, Nikkor 35/2.0, Nikkor 50/1.8, Sigma 24/2.8, Nikkor 18-105 VR |
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cbaldeck
Joined: 29 Sep 2012 Posts: 3 Location: Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:12 pm Post subject: Are Hanimar similar to Hanimex lenses? |
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cbaldeck wrote:
I have a clean Hanimar Automatic 35mm f2.8 lens in M42 mount and with shade, recently acquired for US$5.00. Any time I find an M42 lens in apparently clean condition for $5.00, I buy first and try it out later. Then I did a site search for Hanimar 35mm f2.8, and found none, but only the Hanimex 35mm f2.8. The comments on the Hanimex were not very encouraging, and the weather here is cold and cloudy, so I haven't tried it yet and have no idea what to expect. Perhaps a potential entry in a "worst lens" contest?
So I wondered if these two "brands" are related in some way.
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hifisapi
Joined: 25 Sep 2012 Posts: 941 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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hifisapi wrote:
dont waste your time with the hanimex. you can get an incredible m42 35mm f3.5 lens,
the super multi coated takumar for reasonable money and use that instead... _________________ ===========
ACQUIRED OVER 30 YEARS:
Cameras: DSLR=Pentax istDS FILM=Pentax SP, SP-F, ESII, SP1000, KX, K2
Lenses : Pentax M42 = Super Multi Coated Takumars 50/1.4 55/1.8 100/4-BELLOWS 500/4.5 1000/8 135-600/6.7 Pentax PK= SMC Pentax-Ks K17/4-FF Fisheye K18/3.5 K20/4 K24/3.5 K28/3.5 K28/2 K35/3.5 K35/2 K50/1.2 K50/1.4K 50/4-MACROK 55/1.8 K85/1.8 K100/4-MACRO K100/4-BELLOWS K105/2.8 K120/2.8 K135/3.5 K135/2.5 K150/4 K200/4 K400/5.6 K45-125/4K 85-210/4.5 Pentax PKM = SMC Pentax-M M40/2.8-Pancake M50/1.4 M75-150/4 M80-200/4.5 Pentax PKA= SMC Pentax-A A15/3.5 A50/2.8-MACRO A28/2 A35/2 A50/1.4 A135/2.8 A200/4 A*300/4 A35-105/3.5 A24-50/4 A70-210/4 TAMRON AD2= SP80-200/2.8 SP180/2.5 TOKINA AT-X PK= ATX28-85/3.5-4.5 ATX35-70/2.8 ATX60-120/2.8 ATX80-200/2.8 ATX100-300/4 ATX90/2.5 MACRO KIRON-LESTER DINE PK = 105/2.8-MACRO VIVITAR PK = 135/2.8-MACRO 28-85/4 NOFLEXAR AUTOBELLOWS PK = 60/4 105/4 |
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
you can find infos about Hanimex/hanimar in this old catalog/guide (cretis to butkus ) http://lens-club.ru/public/files/pdfs/e9d860c370f470a7af54762f39aa9976.pdf _________________ Canonet QL17 III
Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
Nikon D90, Nikkor 35/2.0, Nikkor 50/1.8, Sigma 24/2.8, Nikkor 18-105 VR |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Hanimex was an international distributor of many makers lenses for several decades.
The brochure from Butkus covers a certain period of its operations, and I think also a limited market segment, in this case maybe the UK.
Some Hanimex branded products don't seem to have been sold in the US for instance.
The lenses listed are quite varied, but several that are pictured on the cover are identifiable as Tokina made.
Some others are German. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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nukemall
Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 96 Location: Blagoveschensk, Russia
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:04 am Post subject: |
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nukemall wrote:
Yes, brands like Hanimex, Revuenon, Sears etc means nothing. It's only resellers, than different batches of lenses with the same FL and apetrure(like 35/2.8, 28/2.8 etc) may be ordered from different manufacturers.
Another Hanimex 35/2.8 M42 from Cima Kogaku ("hollow diamond" DOF mark)
Samples:
f/2.8:
f/4:
f/5.6:
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
I'd include Hanimex m42 28mm f2.8 as just an OK lens until you can afford something better. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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cbaldeck
Joined: 29 Sep 2012 Posts: 3 Location: Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject: Hanimar 35mm f2.8 |
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cbaldeck wrote:
Thanks to everyone for the responses. Many of the contributors here really know their lenses.
The brochure referenced above did contain a table of Hanimex lenses, and another table listing (not as many) Hanimar lenses, but I didn't see anything which would indicate the differences (if any) between them.
Since the Hanimar lens was purchased from a knowledgeable and experienced specialist in vintage photo equipment, I did not expect to find a Zeiss-grade lens for $5.00 , but I really do like manual focus primes and it looked interesting enough to give it a try. As a long time camera and lens collector (although relatively new to this forum) I know there are much better 35mm lenses, and I already have a few, like the Zeiss ZF-2 35/2 and the Nikon AiS 35/1.4 in Nikon mount, as well as the aforementioned Pentax M42 35/3.5 S-M-C Takumar.
But even not-very-good lenses can have interesting uses. When the weather gets better, it might be fun to attempt replication of an interesting experiment I read about somewhere on the web. There, a photographer took his WORST lens and used it to make a panoramic stitch, then downsized it a bit. He found that stitching with even a poor lens could yield excellent final image quality -- if there are enough pixels. And getting a lot of pixels has become quite feasible lately. With its reportedly much improved photo merge capability, CS6 might make this kind of approach a lot easier.
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7795 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Using Microsoft ICE - a free download - I've had some good results stitching big panoramas with average quality lenses. I've got pictures that would have been impossible otherwise. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
nukemall wrote: |
Yes, brands like Hanimex, Revuenon, Sears etc means nothing. It's only resellers, than different batches of lenses with the same FL and apetrure(like 35/2.8, 28/2.8 etc) may be ordered from different manufacturers.
Another Hanimex 35/2.8 M42 from Cima Kogaku ("hollow diamond" DOF mark)
Samples:
f/2.8:
f/4:
f/5.6:
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Cima Kogaku lenses tend to be very good. I've tested 2.8/28mm and it was fully comparable to RMC Tokina for instance. _________________ ---------------------------------
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6005 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:22 am Post subject: Another Hanimex 2.8/35 |
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Oldhand wrote:
Unusual Hanimex pre-set in T mount.
Wearing the leather/leatherette focus ring from early Chinon and Revuenon Days.
Who made it - not sure.
It is not a bad lens nonetheless.
Here is the lens:
and some quick backyard samples:
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:40 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Yeah, good question as to the maker. There are at least three possibilities.
I wish I had clear ID's of all Tokina, Nittoh/Komine and Kawanon preset wide angles. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6005 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Thank you luisalegria.
Here are a couple more taken wide open.
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:03 am Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
Use autocontrast to beef up your images. It will appear better.
Sadly the lens is not the best but you can use it. Remember when these lenses were made they were designed for the budget conscious amateur, most of whom only took home prints that were 10 x 15 or 12x17 cm. At that size, edge resolution wasn't an issue. Colour prints were quite contrasty as cheap films were designed to give brighter colours than the professional films. This cancelled out the inherent low contrast of the lenses.
These lenses were a product of their day and designed for then.
You may sell it for more than you paid. Check first if it has a T-mount, that may be worth more than the lens! _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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dimitrygo
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 561
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:39 am Post subject: |
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dimitrygo wrote:
philslizzy wrote: |
Use autocontrast to beef up your images. It will appear better. |
IMO there is enough contrast in these images. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
dimitrygo wrote: |
philslizzy wrote: |
Use autocontrast to beef up your images. It will appear better. |
IMO there is enough contrast in these images. |
I bet autocontrast has already been applied. _________________ ---------------------------------
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