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tb_a
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 Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:53 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
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| Anyone with any experiences with the Minolta 2/85 ? |
No. I have the 1.7 and 1.4 versions from Minolta.
However, you can see a quite interesting comparison also with the F2 version and some Zeiss lenses (Biotar and Sonnar) here:
http://artaphot.ch/sony-nex/altglas/325-nex-5n-und-portrait-objektive-mit-75-90mm-brennweite
In essence you can read there that the F2 version is also a very excellent lens which is already fully usable wide open, also on FF bodies.
However, as I have the other versions already it didn't make much sense for me to look additionally for the F2 version.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Very good photos, Jenkwang.
Just got a Nikkor K 1.8/85mm.
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tb_a
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| Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
Jenkwang, thanks for the examples.
I too have the Takumar 85/1.9 and the Jupiter 9 among some others like the Minolta ones and can actually confirm what you are stating.
The likelihood to get a "dead duck" in the range of 85mm lenses is rather low.
Additionally in the field of 90mm lenses and if F2.8 isn't considered to be too slow there might be something available, which is rather good.
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Lloydy wrote:
Stretch it to 90 and 2.5 there is the superb Tamron 52BB.
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The Sigma 2.8/90 Macro has the smoothest most beautiful bokeh I have ever seen. Hard to find lens though, I have one for EOS and that can only be used on film cameras or wide open on digital EOS. I have been hunting for a Sony A mount one for a year or more, only seen one or two come up for sale and they were either expensive or had issues.
Wide open on my old EOS 405D, sadly the body of the butterfly is out of focus, but you get the idea about the bokeh, that was an extremely busy background of small colourful flowers and it has been rendered as an impressionistic swathe of colourful blobs.
Sadly it can only be used wide open on digial so the dof is always razor thin and the results always a bit dreamy but the smoothness is to die for imho.
On film where you can use it properly, it is bitingly sharp, this was at f4, supermarket scan from Agfa Vista Plus 200 C41 film.
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papasito wrote:
The 85 mm is the FL of my dreams. I like almost all the lenses in this range.
Especially Nikkor, Rokkor, Canon, Zeiss.
I did not try the perspective of the 85 in my nex 5N. With FF it is known, but with the smaller sensor, not.
The J-9 is a great lens to me.
At 8/11 is very sharp, if you need the sharpness, there is.
At 2,8 can produce very nice portraits, as all of us know.
The price here is near the 300 bucks. |
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newst wrote:
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The 85 mm is the FL of my dreams. I like almost all the lenses in this range.
Especially Nikkor, Rokkor, Canon, Zeiss.
I did not try the perspective of the 85 in my nex 5N. With FF it is known, but with the smaller sensor, not.
The J-9 is a great lens to me.
At 8/11 is very sharp, if you need the sharpness, there is.
At 2,8 can produce very nice portraits, as all of us know.
The price here is near the 300 bucks. |
I too have a strong preference for the 85mm lens on a full frame camera. I have bought and sold several and now own:
Carl Zeiss (Oberkochen) Sonnar 2.8/85 in M42. (Zeiss made & branded Rollei lens)
Konica Hexanon 1.8/85
Jupiter 9 2.0/85 ( This is my third J-9. The first, a 1961 silver M39 model I bought on the cheap and got what I paid for. The second was a 1951 lens originally produced in Contax Rangefinder mount. It was modified by a prior owner to M42 mount and I am still playing with it to build a mount where it will focus to infinity. I just today received my third, a black, 1985, multi-coated lens in beautiful condition. I was lucky enough to hit on an Ebay sale by a photographer who was clearing out his M42 lenses and picked it up for $149.00 BIN. I have only had a few hours to play with it but I can now see why so many people love the J-9.)
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Oldhand
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Oldhand wrote:
I would like to add another vote for the Takumar 1.9/85
But your original suggestion of the Mamiya 2.8/80 is also very good and is a cheaper option.
OH
Super-Takumar 1.9/85
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:42 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
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I would like to add another vote for the Takumar 1.9/85
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Very nice example. I like the bokeh very much. Nothing to be nervous about. 
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Oldhand
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Oldhand wrote:
Thank you Thomas.
I like the bokeh from the Takumar very much at wide apertures.
I do not have a sample from the Mamiya 1.9/80 at full aperture to show, but this one demonstrates its sharpness and colour rendition.
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aoleg wrote:
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| Anyone with any experiences with the Minolta 2/85 ? |
Yup. It's an excellent lens, very easy to modify for Canon EOS (with thin MD adapter and a slight focusing adjustment). Extremely sharp and contrasty even wide open. Excellent colors. Slightly harsh bokeh (but not unpleasant, just more harsh compared to e.g. Minolta 85/1.7). Overall, I think it's the sharpest 85mm f/2 lens among them all, which includes Nikkor, Zuiko and SMC Pentax 85/2.
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Kei wrote:
I've put a load of samples from the mamiya 80mm F1.9 in a thread here.
Here are some samples from the slower mamiya 80mm F2.8. Used as normal without extension tubes.
 Tortoiseshell Butterfly by Kyle, on Flickr
 Dandelion by Kyle, on Flickr
 Robin by Kyle, on Flickr
Used with EXT ring No.3
 Lilly by Kyle, on Flickr
 Chive by Kyle, on Flickr
 Hoverfly by Kyle, on Flickr
Wide open.
 Tulip by Kyle, on Flickr
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Oldhand
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Oldhand wrote:
The Mamiya 2.8/80 is an outstanding lens and may be the best value for money 80mm out there.
Your images all show its potential.
Thanks for sharing them
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