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zewrak
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 Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: Double Bass Girl, shot with Super Takumar 135mm f/3.5 |
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I was going thru the images of today and I am already very found of this image
a bit bigger here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/zewrak/2632405734/in/pool-346381@N21
Makes it all worth it.
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F16SUNSHINE
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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YES  This is a gorgeous capture on every level. Wow you got it all composure, exposure, choice of DOF all perfect. Beautiful subject and nicely timed moment as well . Is this staged or live action? 
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Attila
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Trully amazing! Well done from every aspects!
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zewrak
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| F16SUNSHINE wrote: | | YES This is a gorgeous capture on every level. Wow you got it all composure, exposure, choice of DOF all perfect. Beautiful subject and nicely timed moment as well . Is this staged or live action? |
It's live, never seen her before. 
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Asahi Auto Takumar 85/1.8
Asahi Takumar 105/2.8 135/3.5
Asahi Super Takumar 20/4.5 50/1.4 55/1.8 85/1.9 105/2.8 135/3.5 150/4 200/4
Asahi S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5 300/4
Asahi S-M-C Macro-Takumar 50/4,100/4
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F16SUNSHINE
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | It's live, never seen her before. Smile |
Well hopefully you see her again 
Again really great one ! |
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Great capture! Fantastic expression on her face!
I have to be sincere, I am not so convinced of the composition. She's very tight on the right and a lot of space on the left. I would crop about 20% of the image on the left. Her lateral gaze would still be effective, but she would not be so de-centred.
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zewrak
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Orio wrote: | Great capture! Fantastic expression on her face!
I have to be sincere, I am not so convinced of the composition. She's very tight on the right and a lot of space on the left. I would crop about 20% of the image on the left. Her lateral gaze would still be effective, but she would not be so de-centred. |
But but but... then it won't be SQUARE!  And the reason shes tight on that side is because there is a microphone stand next to her that spoils the picture. :p
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zewrak
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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For Orio.
Thats better?
EDIT: Lol I see now I missed a part of the microphone cable. (photoshopped the stand and the microphone :p
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Asahi Auto Takumar 85/1.8
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Asahi Super Takumar 20/4.5 50/1.4 55/1.8 85/1.9 105/2.8 135/3.5 150/4 200/4
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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You have a lot of vertical elements in the picture: her, the bass, the fence pole. The only horizontal element (the top of fence) is not levelled but slightly diagonal. I can not find any reason in the picture to keep the square format. A vertical framing would serve the image better. In my personal opinion, of course.
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| zewrak wrote: | For Orio.
Thats better?
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Hm... you have given more space to the top, compared to first picture (where top of bass was cropped). With this new higher top you need more space on the left to compensate.
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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This is how I would crop it if it was my picture:
I would leave the top of bass cropped because it makes the thigh cropping to the arm at the right less painful.
Then I would crop on the left enough to make picture vertical and recentre the subject, but not too much, so that there is still room for her gaze to "aim towards".
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zewrak
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Orio wrote: | This is how I would crop it if it was my picture:
I would leave the top of bass cropped because it makes the thigh cropping to the arm at the right less painful.
Then I would crop on the left enough to make picture vertical and recentre the subject, but not too much, so that there is still room for her gaze to "aim towards". |
Sweet. Much appreciated. Alot to learn about this and I really need the help and I do really appreciate it.
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| zewrak wrote: |
Sweet. Much appreciated. Alot to learn about this and I really need the help and I do really appreciate it. |
This is just my interpretation, one of the several possible and not necessarily the best one. It's not an exact science
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A G Photography
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not very convinced about cropping the top of the bass and part of the right arm would be so good looking. I'd be curious to see the original shot because I'm seeing a "square" opportunity
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| A G Photography wrote: | | I'm not very convinced about cropping the top of the bass and part of the right arm would be so good looking. I'd be curious to see the original shot because I'm seeing a "square" opportunity |
Of course you understand that the need to crop the top of the bass derives from the fact that there is a tight crop on the arm.
Since the arm is cropped so tight, to crop the top of bass means that the eye of the viewer is distracted by the top crop and does not insist too much on the crop at the arm, which is the weak point of the image.
Call it a "defensive measure".
In an ideal world I would like to have the full bass and more room at the right of the image.
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RANGEFINDERS: Contax G2, Kiev-4, Voigtlaender Bessa-T, Canonette QL17. MEDIUM FORMAT: Pentacon 6, Zeiss Super Ikonta, Agfa Record II.
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